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    Nepentha's Avatar
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoto View Post
    So I've traveled to all the different servers on the Crystal data center and the bot ring spans across them all. How it seems to work: the gathering bots get the materials and bring them to the crafting bot (the name of the account that shows up on the merchandise) who then gives the crafted items to market/pricing bots who sell.... well almost everything on the market board. These accounts then undercut real players (24/7) trying to sell goods at reasonable prices. After the bots item sells it is quickly replaced and real players products continue to sit on the market board. Make no mistake, this is coordinated across the entire data center. This is without a doubt one of the RMT rings.
    Have your own doubts?
    Do the research on your own.

    Please:
    Stay aware adventurers and avoid buying from bots.
    Continue to report botting.
    Continue to think of ways to combat bots

    If you think this is an echo. It is.
    I have a spreadsheet keeping track of known third party software using bot FCs. I'm not about to post a link to it here. Currently I'm moving about all NA servers to verify bot activity, then I plan to submit the whole thing to SE's special task force. I have no idea if this will result in anything. I hope so. I'm doing their homework for them.
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    I have a spreadsheet keeping track of known third party software using bot FCs. I'm not about to post a link to it here. Currently I'm moving about all NA servers to verify bot activity, then I plan to submit the whole thing to SE's special task force. I have no idea if this will result in anything. I hope so. I'm doing their homework for them.
    I suspect the STF will do exactly nothing.

    countless players have done their homework for them, using only what we players have at our disposal. we have submitted detailed reports, in english and japanese. we lack any of their tools that they use to verify any of, and yet, nothing is ever done.

    so, this leads to one of a couple of conclusions.

    1. the players are 100% incorrect and there is no botting or illegal activity being done by any of the ones reported for botting and RMT activity across a data center. especially since these are long term deeply embedded bots/RMT generators
    -OR-
    2. the STF, and by extension SE, doesnt give a F, condones botting/RMT activity or simply feels only the Japanese servers deserve their attention.

    Its getting to the point where the only homework we can do for them is Public Relations, and spread the word about what a fine job they are doing in this regard.
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    Angelhearth Besterda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I suspect the STF will do exactly nothing.

    countless players have done their homework for them, using only what we players have at our disposal. we have submitted detailed reports, in english and japanese. we lack any of their tools that they use to verify any of, and yet, nothing is ever done.

    so, this leads to one of a couple of conclusions.

    1. the players are 100% incorrect and there is no botting or illegal activity being done by any of the ones reported for botting and RMT activity across a data center. especially since these are long term deeply embedded bots/RMT generators
    -OR-
    2. the STF, and by extension SE, doesnt give a F, condones botting/RMT activity or simply feels only the Japanese servers deserve their attention.

    Its getting to the point where the only homework we can do for them is Public Relations, and spread the word about what a fine job they are doing in this regard.
    If you have ever tried contacting a Japanese company, for whatever reason, you know what they think of foreigners. I am seriously surprised they even bothered launching a English version of the game. If you are into Anime, Manga and the likes, you'll find that most games, videos and Magazines are translated by foreigners without the developers consent. The developers normally don't even bother trying to stop such translations, which really shows how much they care.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelhearth View Post
    If you are into Anime, Manga and the likes, you'll find that most games, videos and Magazines are translated by foreigners without the developers consent. The developers normally don't even bother trying to stop such translations, which really shows how much they care.
    Can you maybe drop some citations for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Can you maybe drop some citations for this?
    Check out Baka-Tsuki, they are a fan based translation "group". There are others out there too, but Baka-Tsuki is the only one I've found with an official front. I used to be a member and help out with editorial stuff for a Leaf anime game called White Album 2. I tried contacting Leaf at least twice, never heard anything back.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelhearth View Post
    If you have ever tried contacting a Japanese company, for whatever reason, you know what they think of foreigners. I am seriously surprised they even bothered launching a English version of the game. If you are into Anime, Manga and the likes, you'll find that most games, videos and Magazines are translated by foreigners without the developers consent. The developers normally don't even bother trying to stop such translations, which really shows how much they care.
    Every notice how many North American and European game developers are the same way for those who live outside their regions and don't speak their languages?

    Let's not pretend it's only a JP issue.
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    Hel Sonofraiser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelhearth View Post
    If you have ever tried contacting a Japanese company, for whatever reason, you know what they think of foreigners. I am seriously surprised they even bothered launching a English version of the game. If you are into Anime, Manga and the likes, you'll find that most games, videos and Magazines are translated by foreigners without the developers consent. The developers normally don't even bother trying to stop such translations, which really shows how much they care.
    And I think there is very good reason for SE Japan to view even the company in NA with wary eyes.
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    Xoto Ioto
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    The problem isn't getting better. It's getting worse. Two new ones just showed up on Coeurl and all the old ones are still here. . .
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    Fisher Lv 80
    Nice to see this has been going on so long. Came here just to see if anything was likely to happen to the bot I've been reporting on ultros that's taken over like 70% of the market, but looks like that answer is a hard no. Frustrating
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrefox45 View Post
    Nice to see this has been going on so long. Came here just to see if anything was likely to happen to the bot I've been reporting on ultros that's taken over like 70% of the market, but looks like that answer is a hard no. Frustrating
    I would love to be able to say you are mistaken... but.. you arent.. and it is.
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