Sylphs on the First?

[MirronTulaxia]

Any hints or mentions of them? The other major tribes we see, or their absence is understandable (no Allagans so no Ixali presumably, and no Midgardsormr so no Dravanians). Just wondering if I missed something that explained them.

[thegreatonemal]

I'm sure they existed but most likely died in the Flood.

[Gula]

Likely all dead. Namazu were mentioned in the Qitari Beast Tribe quest line. The Flood really wrecked the shard all over.

[MirronTulaxia]

I guess I figured they’d be fine because the other Eorzean counterparts were. Just seems kind of odd.

[Morningstar1337]

The Pixies are the closest, but their absence is strange, however that could be chalked up to them dying in the flood, along with the equivalents of the HW and onward tribes such as the Vanu Vanu, Annata, Kojin, Gnath, etc.

As another use mentioned, the Flood of Light wrecked everything all around, even the edges of Norvrant weren't safe as Ahm Areneg can attest.

The other possibility is that the Sylphs were secretly descended from Allagan creations, but that seems more likely to fit the Annata if anything, and is rather farfetched besides.

[Gula]

I guess I figured they’d be fine because the other Eorzean counterparts were. Just seems kind of odd.

Shards aren't like countries, planets or even galaxies. They're not even in the same dimension, to an extent. Consider the following! If someone spat on you on the First, that same person didn't spit on you on the Source.

[MirronTulaxia]

Shards aren't like countries, planets or even galaxies. They're not even in the same dimension, to an extent. Consider the following! If someone spat on you on the First, that same person didn't spit on you on the Source.

I'm not sure that really follows because it is rather literally the same planet. Just copied and then different timelines (and Ascian meddling). That's why the ruins of the original cities are there after all.

And the point of "things are different" would have a bit more weight if all of the Spoken races on the Source and most of the Eorzean Beast Tribes weren't around. That they are really makes it lose impact. As is it seems just kind of arbitrary.

[Brightamethyst]

I'm not sure that really follows because it is rather literally the same planet.

Right, but the Sundering wasn't THAT long ago. 10,000 years is long enough for empires to rise and fall and for technology to diverge and such, but not long enough for biology to drastically change. It's not weird at all that most intelligent races (barring artificially created or enhanced ones) are older than that.

[MirronTulaxia]

The others have the benefits of being in countries outside of the original five areas of FFXIV (Ishgard, Ul'dah, Gridania, Limsa Lominsa, and Mor Dhona). Of the ones who show up in the original, you have Moogles, Ixali, Sylphs, Amal'jaa, Sahagin, Kobolds, and Dravanians (I add the last as a meaningful one as they're the catalyst for Shiva to an extent). Only three of those don't pop up, and two of them are dependent on things unique to the Source, so Sylphs are just the odd man out. Not saying that them being killed in the Flood isn't the case, it just seems like a strange omission when the others all showed up. Would have been neat to see them with the Pixies and perhaps compare/contrast the two.

[Brightamethyst]

It's also possible that there were never sylphs there at all. It's not like we know anything about sylphic history. They may post-date the Sundering.