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  1. #1
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    TeraRamis's Avatar
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    Tiffah Lockhart
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 82

    Hyur Midlander female faces need... help.

    Hi,

    I'm a big believer in putting a huge amount of work into the character creation. In fact, I'm cool with admitting that I am guilty of being downright anal about it. I also tend to nitpick my own work pretty heavily (leading to off-and-on [sometimes bordering on addictive] use of fantasias to rectify perceived issues). I realize that, right off the back, the fact that I think about this entire matter too much sets me apart from average players (and probably not in a good/healthy way).

    HOWEVER...

    I have to say, even from a casual perspective (IE, my fiance glancing over my shoulder, looking at the options, and beginning to laugh), the Hyur Midlander female faces are HORRID. There is a single "strong" option (#5), one "passable" option (#1 - and yes, I know there is a slender contingent of #1 devotees out there), and three truly horrific options (#2, 3 and 4), all of which look like they were lazily carved out of raw clay.

    Look, I get it: everyone's tastes differ. And I am sure that there are people out there who use #2, 3 and 4.

    But I don't see them. Ever.

    If I run into another female Midlander Hyur, she's almost always a near-clone of me, with some variation of lips/eyes/nose. Once in a blue moon, I'll spot a #1 (and strongly desire to reach out and question them regarding their unusual tastes), but it can't happen more than once a month. EVERY. OTHER. PERSON is using that #5 (I also want to add: this isn't to say that #5 is perfect - her best nose is too small; her default expression is unbelievably neutral, leaving her looking permanently zoned out in every situation where the game doesn't directly intervene to change you to looking happy or worried or whatever).

    The only other female race that arguably has such limited options is Lalafell (and this is due to all their faces being clones of one another with differing eyes). Miqo'te, Au Ra, Viera, and the various sub-races ALL have way more strong-to-brilliant options than female Midlander Hyurs. In fact, Au Ra and Miqo'te arguably don't have a single face option that causes you to recoil in horror, bellowing like General Kael in Willow "WHAT GOES ON HERE?!" But for those three Hyur faces? That's reality; that's the inescapable horror of their unfinished state. Blech. Blarg. Egads.

    I know that this is hardly a pressing issue, but I do believe it's one of the (numerous) reasons why female Hyur Midlanders are so unpopular relative to other female races (and yes, I understand that cat ears, horns, swishy tails, bunny ears, and so on are all very compelling).

    So, at some point, Square, please... please: fix those freaking Hyur faces.
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    I dunno, there are two female Au Ra faces that make me recoil in horror, one Miqo’te face, and three Viera faces that also make me recoil in Horror. It would actually be nice for Au Ra and Viera to have more facial options, as they’re mostly just colour swaps between tribes. (Well, you get different eyebrow lengths and pupil size for Viera). Hyurs have it good when it comes to being able to choose between more than 4 faces, from two tribes that don’t look extremely similar.
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    Althena Rolair
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I feel perfect, its the Au Ra faces that are hard to work with.
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    While the 'default' faces for everything but #1 and #5 might look off, they have varied enough options for all the faces to be rather unique and gorgeous with pretty minimal effort. I can spam randomize appearance on female Midlanders and get something widely different more often than not. On the other hand Female Elezen literally only have two faces, with the other two being makeup attached versions of the first. They try to hide it by making the presets 'look' varied, but go through their options and you'll see that unlike Midlanders the makeup-less version and the one with makeup are carbon copies of each other. Then to say nothing of the issues Femroe and FemHighlanders have. At least Midlanders don't have blocky, half finished meshes.

    Honestly it'd be nice for an expansion to CC for all races. Viera and Hrothgar, while limited, upped the level of quality and it's rather weird to go back and look at the old races by comparison.
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    Sharara Lua
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    I adored my FEM Hyur midlander!

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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    I checked and I use number 3 on my midlander.
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    Jin Wa
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    Odin
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    Tesleen is so beautiful. Other than that Hyurs are meh
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    The only other female race that arguably has such limited options is Lalafell (and this is due to all their faces being clones of one another with differing eyes). Miqo'te, Au Ra, Viera, and the various sub-races ALL have way more strong-to-brilliant options than female Midlander Hyurs. In fact, Au Ra and Miqo'te arguably don't have a single face option that causes you to recoil in horror, bellowing like General Kael in Willow "WHAT GOES ON HERE?!" But for those three Hyur faces? That's reality; that's the inescapable horror of their unfinished state. Blech. Blarg. Egads.

    I know that this is hardly a pressing issue, but I do believe it's one of the (numerous) reasons why female Hyur Midlanders are so unpopular relative to other female races (and yes, I understand that cat ears, horns, swishy tails, bunny ears, and so on are all very compelling).

    So, at some point, Square, please... please: fix those freaking Hyur faces.
    The casual gaming racism.

    These faces are not that ugly, they are just different.
    I like face 3, it has large nice looking eyes.
    Its just that players tend to not think much about customization, hence why elezen and roes are so rare, thats why you dont see people using different faces.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 05-26-2020 at 07:11 PM.

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    Y'sira Kurai
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    I don't think the running animation helps. I had been a female Hyur for years on my main and frankly I got less and less happy with playing her and started playing my aura alts a lot more. I have both kitty, aura and viera alts now and I personally enjoy Viera tremendously.

    Took awhile but i finally fantasia'd my main to Viera and have been very happy since.
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    Sargatanas
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    The faces aside from Viera, Lalafell & Miqo'te all need work. They're placid & look like wax. The faces in WoW have more depth than what we are given in FFXIV CC, probably because they have animations that don't give them a boring, robotic stare & actual face shading. Character creation in FFXIV leaves more to be desired, that's for sure.
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