You Guys need to UP your housing "fix" attempts.

[TR_RA]

Not only is the land rush still an issue for a lot of players, but you never do ANYTHING to try to fix the problem.

1) Auto-demolish is still off. This is an issue.
2) The random timer for plot purchasing is a pain the rear end.
3) The newly added wards you attempt to use as a fix, still have the same exact layouts.

The last patch you did with new wards, you restricted buying if not an FC, but you still allowed individuals to transfer there. That took several of the good plots. Most people, I'd even dare to say "nobody", wants a small (S) plot. Those of us who want housing, we like to decorate. We want mediums (M) and larges (L). You have only EIGHT L houses in a single ward (normal side & subdivision side), i think 10 Ms (maybe less), and the rest are S plots. You haven't changed this format, as if you haven't realized the lack of bigger housing is most of the complaints.

Right now, in my personal house, I have 4 crafting stations. My FC house has the OTHER 4 crafting stations. Why? Because for some stupid reason, I can't put all 8 in the basement of a smalll house. I even think a medium is only allowed 6, so I'd be forced to have a large, which i don't really need all that space. That would take it away from someone who wanted a L and all the space. Then, we talk about the limits of gardening, where even in a small house, if that's your thing, you can't just put the gardens all over the place. Can it make gil? Absolutely. Is it fair to those who don't put gardens all over the place? Still, absolutely bc there is the CHOICE for a player to choose to do what they want and use a plot in their desired manner.

I been personally pining for a M plot, that's all I want a M, a bigger house for my Free Company. I am next to a M plot, beachfront, in Shirogane. The M plot is owned by an individual who I have NEVER EVER EVER seen on his land, or in his house, or even at the summoning bell. Inside the house (all 3 stories), he has nothing but random beds & baths all over the place. No vendors, no mendors, NOTHING. Just a house full of garbage. It's like you don't understand that players will spend gil just because they have a ton of it (not that you need a ton, cause there isn't much the game requires you to buy) just because they have it and don't know what else to do with it. There are empty houses, even mansions, that trolls buy and never use just to keep someone else from it. I know that "instanced housing" like apartments have been mentioned before, and you seem to ignore it at every turn. Why not even do it so you walk up to a plot, choose FC or Individual (as always), then there let us DECIDE what size that plot is?

If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over thinking it will change things, Square, you guys are definitely insane b/c adding new wards with the exact same restrictions and limits on housing is INSANITY.

[SweetestLily]

I wonder how many of these type of threads it will take before they cave in and do instanced housing.

[Gula]

I wonder how many of these type of threads it will take before they cave in and do instanced housing.

I don't think caving has anything to do with it. It may just literally not work. Unless I missed a Live Letter where they said it was wholly possible with the system.

[Kidria]

1) It's off as a courtesy for what's ravaging the world at large. It being off sucks for those wanting a house, but for legit players affected in some way by COVID-19, it's something small the dev team can do for them.
2) Yes, but it's there to help lower the curve of house flipping. Has it eliminated it? No. But it still gave people a chance vs none at all. I doubt they'll remove this for a while yet.
3) This is expected. The wards aren't going to differ from ward to ward.

Does the system need revamping and rethinking? Yes. It does. Could we use more meds/larges vs smalls? Sure, that'd be nice. But the number of S, M, and L (as far as I am aware) is fixed through the wards simply because that's how the system is coded. To change it could require a mass re-code and I don't think they are able to do that, especially if it's tied to 1.0 code, which I believe it is?

Honestly I'm hoping the Ishgard wards are what we are hoping for. I'm hoping it's instanced housing, that the neighborhoods we're building and seeing outside are the NPCs and they're the neighbors, and we have a 'house' we click the door of and enter our specific instance (similar to an inn room). It already has LORE reasons for it to be that way vs an actual adventurer neighborhood. It's not meant to build a community of adventurers, it's for the Brume citizens, and there's no need for an adventurer ward. From what I've heard of how the old zones are, I don't think they can support that sort of system, but maybe with Ishgard being so seperate, esp as the whole Restoration plays out, it could open the door for such a system and maybe even lead to more such things, like Ala Mhigo and the like. The old wards can be your 'community' wards, and these new ones could be for those who just want the space and slots to express their creativity and have convenient options.

[DrWho2010]

I wonder how many of these type of threads it will take before they cave in and do instanced housing.

Actually having multiple threads is bad - all these concerns should be put into one big large megapost/topic with multiple likes on relevant posts. all these little threads lying about going nowhere don't get noticed by the devs.

[Jojoya]

Auto-demo has only been suspended for 6 weeks. Generally it's suspended for 5-6 months then reactivated during a patch maintenance. I definitely don't expect it to happen until at least 5.3's release and possibly later depending on how the COVID situation impacts business and employment in the areas where players live.

That random timer is what is giving you a better chance to buy a house than you had before that timer was implemented. Perhaps you don't remember those days. I can.

I've never seen them call adding wards a fix. I don't know why you expect the layouts to change when they are copies of one another within the same housing district.

You're wrong about nobody wanting a small plot. Many players enjoy their small plots and passed up opportunities to purchase mediums and larges when they were still available. Since you're confused about what's in a layout, there's 3 large, 7 medium and 20 smalls in each ward division/subdivision.

Crafting station limits were probably set due to the old interactive furnishing limitations that existed. Is it something that could be changed now that PS3 and 32 bit support are gone? I don't know. I agree it would be nice if the limit could be increased or removed.

Would you still bother with gardening when the price of items dropped tremendously because everyone could have as many garden plots as they wanted? Probably not. I could agree with allowing every plot regardless of size the same number of garden slots but it would be foolish of SE to allow them up to the item placement limit because of the impact on the marketboard.

How hypocritical of you to say in one paragraph that you should be allowed to do what you want with your housing just to follow up in the next paragraph complaining about how another player has done what they want with their house.

I'm fairly certain SE understands that just adding new wards isn't working but it's likely the one thing they are better able to implement while they work on other solutions.

I don't think caving has anything to do with it. It may just literally not work. Unless I missed a Live Letter where they said it was wholly possible with the system.

All housing interiors are already instanced. It's only the outdoor area of a house plot that isn't.

YoshiP did say at the EU FanFest that they're working on technology that would allow a player in an instanced housing area to be able to see what's happening in a non-instanced area, mentioning being able to see players walking around outside your house from inside the house as an example.

Did they get it to work? We don't know. Nothing has been said since. I doubt he would have mentioned it then if they didn't feel like they were close to having a functional system. But if they do have it working, it's not something I would expect to see added until Ishgard housing is finally released.

[TR_RA]

How hypocritical of you to say in one paragraph that you should be allowed to do what you want with your housing just to follow up in the next paragraph complaining about how another player has done what they want with their house.

They aren't doing anything at all with their house, that's why I am pissed off about it. The house has no vendors, menders, company chest...... nothing. Plus, it's a personal house, which means all that space could most likely be utilized BETTER with a Free Company owning the plot. If he wants to waste the space, I'm sure a S is just as sufficient.

[TR_RA]

1) It's off as a courtesy for what's ravaging the world at large. It being off sucks for those wanting a house, but for legit players affected in some way by COVID-19, it's something small the dev team can do for them.

A courtesy? I don't get how it's a courtesy. Currently, most of the world has been on LOCKDOWN for at least a month, which means people are HOME. This, I would think, is the time for it to NOT be on lockout. This is when most people would be able to pick up & play, since most jobs have closed up or laid off employees. When people work, they have subs active and maybe log in once a month and to go into their house just to keep it. Do you think folks doing that should be able to keep the house? They never play, just pay, and log in once every 30 days to avoid the auto-demolish :/ Meanwhile, tons of players still active, always seeking open plots daily.

[Canadane]

A courtesy? I don't get how it's a courtesy. Currently, most of the world has been on LOCKDOWN for at least a month, which means people are HOME. This, I would think, is the time for it to NOT be on lockout. This is when most people would be able to pick up & play, since most jobs have closed up or laid off employees. When people work, they have subs active and maybe log in once a month and to go into their house just to keep it. Do you think folks doing that should be able to keep the house? They never play, just pay, and log in once every 30 days to avoid the auto-demolish :/ Meanwhile, tons of players still active, always seeking open plots daily.

Yeah people are home, not getting paid, probably having to sacrifice their ffxiv sub time so they can possibly afford food.
It's trying times man, deal with it and have some sympathy for your fellow player.

[Leloa]

1st world problems righ here. There's so many people dying and the pandemic is not going away, infact it's still growing bigger. But as long as people get houses in a game, everything is good. This isn't really SE's first attempt to fix at times like this so just deal with it or transfer.