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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I do think it's a concern that you could end up locked out of a great deal of your DRG abilities if you can't keep up with the Blood of the Dragon timers if you're slow on the keyboard. OP said "atm want to not feel weak while going from 1-80 but feel useful ?"
    If someone can't keep up BotD, I'm sorry but they're just going to have to accept that they're not useful. It has a 30 second duration, a 25 second recast, and extenders that come up naturally and do not necessitate positionals. If you cannot keep it up, then you're just not pressing buttons. There is nothing difficult about extending 123 and 567 to 1234 and 5678.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    If someone can't keep up BotD, I'm sorry but they're just going to have to accept that they're not useful.
    Which is why I suggest playing a different class.
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    Why suggest that. Just have the classes gutted and nerfed into one button spam fests, as you all prefer. Actual untreated CT becomes chronic and is aggravated by almost anything at all. Making the whole thing a fairly moot excuse. Play less and adjust is the solution, not throwing a pity party in a veiled attempt at 'its not fair that these aren't as dumbed down too, so that I can only play certain ones.' Not saying that is the OP's implication this time but I sure can imagine it being someone elses follow on at some stage.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindiori View Post
    Why suggest that. Just have the classes gutted and nerfed into one button spam fests, as you all prefer. Actual untreated CT becomes chronic and is aggravated by almost anything at all. Making the whole thing a fairly moot excuse. Play less and adjust is the solution, not throwing a pity party in a veiled attempt at 'its not fair that these aren't as dumbed down too, so that I can only play certain ones.' Not saying that is the OP's implication this time but I sure can imagine it being someone elses follow on at some stage.
    That's this thread from the OP
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...pal-tunnel-rsi
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Which is why I suggest playing a different class.
    If you cannot maintain that level of APM you won't be useful in ANY job.

    Keeping up BotD is possible for anyone no matter how bad you are. You would have to not be playing for significant portions of a fight in order to lose it. You can mess up kenki, you can mess up bootshine procs, you can mess up mudras, and you can mess up Enochian, but messing up BotD means you haven't been playing the job right for nearly 30 levels. All you have to do is do your comboes. You don't even have to land the positionals or rotate them.

    If that's the level of laziness we're expecting, then just play whatever looks prettiest.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    If that's the level of laziness we're expecting, then just play whatever looks prettiest.
    The OP outlined what she wanted and it didn't involve being pretty. If you don't want to answer her question then why bother posting here.

    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    Keeping up BotD is possible for anyone no matter how bad you are.
    You know that's false.
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    Last edited by Edax; 05-25-2020 at 07:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Black Mage.
    This, and not just because of low apm. The number of consecutive actions and the proximity of its alternatives should make for vastly easier flow than, say, a melee DPS.

    Bard and Dancer probably come in just behind it, if you'd prefer a more supportive aesthetic.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    The OP outlined what she wanted and it didn't involve being pretty. If you don't want to answer her question then why bother posting here.



    You know that's false.
    Because you're misleading the OP by trying to act like just giving up kenki management isn't detrimental and like keeping up BotD is a terrible burden. The skill that has a 25 second recast and a 30 second duration, and you could just stand still outside of combat and STILL maintain it.

    And if you think BotD is so hard to maintain, why have you never even tried to explain that? If it was true, then my extremely reductionist argument of "Just press 1>2>3>4 lol" would have been child's play to dismantle.

    I think DRG would be a great job for OP. It has no attack speed buff and actually wants to avoid attack speed. It requires little to no double weaving if you aren't at the level of syncing CD burst windows, and it has two highly visible buffs so that they can feel useful even if their skill might not be up to snuff. Dragon sight is a great way to let a friend know you like them.
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  9. 05-25-2020 08:15 AM
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    OF is a meme and it's too grey to be helped. So I'm not going to try anymore.

  10. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    And if you think BotD is so hard to maintain, why have you never even tried to explain that?
    I never said BotD it was hard to maintain, that's why I never tried to explain that. I'm growing tired of this argument so I'm checking out of this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    /headdesk lol.

    Admittedly these days the agenda is so transparent from the get go, I should probably rename myself Captain Obvious >.<
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