Most low apm dps class and why ?

[Edax]

Ever since the update to it in Shadowbringers, the recast time on BOTD is 25 seconds and its duration is 30 seconds. Unless there's a 30 seconds transition, it becomes impossible to lose now, unless you stop hitting enemies or neglect to press the button again, 5 seconds before it wears off. The other claims against its oGCDs are weird to me, because SAM has those same sorts of things to juggle, they're just further tied into its Kenki bar and Third Eye. Along with Shifu you wind up pressing your buttons pretty much just as much, and more if your skill speed is higher than it should be. The only thing that's simpler about SAM as that there's less of a need to plan out use of your skills, since none of them affect other people, and it has one less positional.

I don't agree. For the most part, I ignore Third Eye and this hasn't let to any critical loss of battle. And like I said before, you don't have to press your buttons faster just because your have a skill speed buff, there's nothing forcing you to push the buttons faster because there's no timers on the abilities apart from the combo requirements. You don't even need to juggle your Kenki bar if you don't want to, it's not on any kind of timer, once the bar is charged the player can use the abilities at their leisure. The OP isn't looking to maximize damage per second.

[basketofseals]

I don't agree. For the most part, I ignore Third Eye and this hasn't let to any critical loss of battle. And like I said before, you don't have to press your buttons faster just because your have a skill speed buff, there's nothing forcing you to push the buttons faster because there's no timers on the abilities apart from the combo requirements. You don't even need to juggle your Kenki bar if you don't want to, it's not on any kind of timer, once the bar is charged the player can use the abilities at their leisure. The OP isn't looking to maximize damage per second.

I'm sorry what kind of argument is this? "You don't have to juggle your kenki bar if you don't have to?" Well you don't have to keep up enochian if you don't want to, or you don't need to deal damage as a healer if you don't want to, or you don't have to do your positionals if you don't want to.

I think I'm going to give OP a little more credit than assuming they're asking what job they can slack on and do a mediocre job and just slide by.

If you don't care about DPS than you can just play literally any job and it won't matter. None of the story content is hard enough to warrant min/maxing.

[Edax]

I'm sorry what kind of argument is this? "You don't have to juggle your kenki bar if you don't have to?" Well you don't have to keep up enochian if you don't want to, or you don't need to deal damage as a healer if you don't want to, or you don't have to do your positionals if you don't want to.

I think I'm going to give OP a little more credit than assuming they're asking what job they can slack on and do a mediocre job and just slide by.

class would benefit someone who wants to enjoy the game through main story/sidequests and contents (even end game that is forgiving if make mistakes in dungeons/raids and stuff)

The OP mentioned she wanted to focus on the story and seemed tentative on forgiving dungeons and raids. Well you don't have to juggle your kenki bar to achieve this, so I don't see what's wrong with making this argument. You can do a mediocre job in any of the MSQ fights and still win so I don't see the problem here. The OP mentioned "DPS class" which is why I'm taking about a DPS class not not healer damage.

If you don't care about DPS than you can just play literally any job and it won't matter. None of the story content is hard enough to warrant min/maxing.

I do think it's a concern that you could end up locked out of a great deal of your DRG abilities if you can't keep up with the Blood of the Dragon timers if you're slow on the keyboard. OP said "atm want to not feel weak while going from 1-80 but feel useful ?"

[basketofseals]

I do think it's a concern that you could end up locked out of a great deal of your DRG abilities if you can't keep up with the Blood of the Dragon timers if you're slow on the keyboard. OP said "atm want to not feel weak while going from 1-80 but feel useful ?"

If someone can't keep up BotD, I'm sorry but they're just going to have to accept that they're not useful. It has a 30 second duration, a 25 second recast, and extenders that come up naturally and do not necessitate positionals. If you cannot keep it up, then you're just not pressing buttons. There is nothing difficult about extending 123 and 567 to 1234 and 5678.

[Edax]

If someone can't keep up BotD, I'm sorry but they're just going to have to accept that they're not useful.

Which is why I suggest playing a different class.

[basketofseals]

Which is why I suggest playing a different class.

If you cannot maintain that level of APM you won't be useful in ANY job.

Keeping up BotD is possible for anyone no matter how bad you are. You would have to not be playing for significant portions of a fight in order to lose it. You can mess up kenki, you can mess up bootshine procs, you can mess up mudras, and you can mess up Enochian, but messing up BotD means you haven't been playing the job right for nearly 30 levels. All you have to do is do your comboes. You don't even have to land the positionals or rotate them.

If that's the level of laziness we're expecting, then just play whatever looks prettiest.

[Edax]

If that's the level of laziness we're expecting, then just play whatever looks prettiest.

The OP outlined what she wanted and it didn't involve being pretty. If you don't want to answer her question then why bother posting here.

Keeping up BotD is possible for anyone no matter how bad you are.

You know that's false.

[Vyrerus]

I don't agree. For the most part, I ignore Third Eye and this hasn't let to any critical loss of battle. And like I said before, you don't have to press your buttons faster just because your have a skill speed buff, there's nothing forcing you to push the buttons faster because there's no timers on the abilities apart from the combo requirements. You don't even need to juggle your Kenki bar if you don't want to, it's not on any kind of timer, once the bar is charged the player can use the abilities at their leisure. The OP isn't looking to maximize damage per second.

You can disagree, and that's fine, but it doesn't mean SAM is any less demanding on APM. The faster your GCD comes back, the faster you will want to and can press your buttons. You can play any job and press the buttons less. The OP is specifically looking for classes that perform well, while pressing less, and SAM is not one of them. To generate Kenki you have get those GCDs off. Hissatsu: Guren/Senei, Ikishoten, Tsubame-Gaeshi, and Shoha all have recast timers in addition to the need to have Kenki generated. The less you press on SAM, the less Kenki you make, the less skills you can do, the worse the class performs, and it will feel quite weak from that. Whereas on DRG, everything is merely on timers, so while you will suffer from pressing less, as all classes do, you will suffer less than SAM, which is intended for the player to be hitting as fast as they can to generate more Kenki. Plus you can buff your allies, in addition to yourself.

Don't get me wrong. I find Samurai more relaxing to play than DRG, but that's solely because of having less to worry about in regards to group buff alignment vs. just being able to do my own thing on SAM and not worry too much. But after longterm play, DRG has never made my hands tired, whereas SAM has.