Most low apm dps class and why ?

[calebfairchild]

Great, just what we need, another person on my favorite job who doesn't have the slightest intention of even trying to perform well while playing it. Personally I recommend dancer. It's far more mobile and you spend 90% of your time just hitting a 1-2 combo. Also as long as you use devilment you can just let players who actually put forth effort do all the work instead.

Just because you have CT doesn't mean you can't perform well, and she never said she would play the class like that did she? I have CT and play as best as I possibly can. She was trying to find a lower APM DPS, and I assume meaning a class she can play optimally even with wrist and hand troubles. Red mage DPS APM is still in the lower range, especially compared to WoW. Even with CT it's possible to play it well. APM is more about how much you MASH buttons, not complex rotations. treating someone like a bad player due to pain isn't cool, I'm sorry to say.

What you want is a job that's 40 CPM (Cast per minute, similar to Actions per minute) or lower and to play with controller if possible.


Job CPM Min Max
NIN 45.6 44.4 46.4
MCH 45.1 44.2 46.4
BRD 42.5 42.1 43.3
SAM 42.2 40.5 43.2
GNB 41.5 39.7 43.9
DRG 40.9 40.3 41.8
MNK 39.8 38.8 41.3
AST 38.6 35.9 40.6
DNC 38.4 36.5 40.6
DRK 37.9 36.6 39.6
RDM 36.5 35.9 37.1
RPR 36.0 35.1 36.8
SMN 35.7 33.9 37.4
SCH 35.4 33.1 38.0
PLD 34.6 33.1 36.4
WAR 34.1 32.4 35.1
SGE 33.1 31.1 35.0
BLM 32.8 32.2 34.8
WHM 31.7 30.2 34.1


Personally I'd recommend Black or red mage in the current content. For Melee: Monk
Tank: Paladin Healer:WHM

[Drakeos]

I would love to keep playing dancer but the class does develop carpal tunnel if used for long fights (storyline or raid boss fights) but all i want to have less button mashing or procs but have simple rotation and not get punished (say killed by AOE and is a DPS loss)

[Drakeos]

If you have a good memory and are willing and able to learn the fights to know them like the inside of your pocket: BLM - knowing the fight inside out should allow you to time your movement-skills (Triple-cast, atherial manipulation, Between the Lines) in such a way that your dps-loss should be minimal. And during no-movement-time BLM has the lowest apm, as already mentioned.

If thats not possible for you, I'll circle back to RDM - with basically constant dualcast you can move more freely, while still enjoying one of the lower apms.

I would stay away from the three range jobs (unless you really want to, in which case I would recommend dancer - stay away from MCN for sure, bard can be... dodgy) and I cant say much about melees.

I would strongly advice that you take the advice to adjust your general hardware setting to accomodate you best, though! There are several options for mice (...is the plural for the computer-mouse computer-mice?), keyboards etc. out there.
It might also be a good idea to find a nice and understanding static if you really want to get into endgame instead of relying on pugs or going for hardcore-world-first-progression.
What I'm trying to say is: At the end of the day its not just picking the lowest apm-job that matters to take strain of your hands, your circumstances matter aswell. And those you can influence - maybe even to a degree that will allow you to pick a job with a slightly higher apm, but more fun-potential in the end!

I was acually looking into Samurai though they peaked my interest have got one to 70 in stormblood

[Kolsykol]

It's definitely BLM.
I usually main mages in MMO's but in FFXIV my first job was Pugilist and I went back to it in Shadowbringers.
And I gotta say, as much as I love Monk my fingers begin to hurt after too long sessions xD...

BLM feels very slow and static when I play it now too, it sorta made me realize how slow they really are when I switched over again.

Edit: Btw, in regards to your carpal tunnel issue.
I'd consider my keybindings carefully too.
I can feel it in my wrists sometimes after long sessions when I have to hold shift for too long.

[Drakeos]

It's definitely BLM.
I usually main mages in MMO's but in FFXIV my first job was Pugilist and I went back to it in Shadowbringers.
And I gotta say, as much as I love Monk my fingers begin to hurt after too long sessions xD...

BLM feels very slow and static when I play it now too, it sorta made me realize how slow they really are when I switched over again.

Edit: Btw, in regards to your carpal tunnel issue.
I'd consider my keybindings carefully too.
I can feel it in my wrists sometimes after long sessions when I have to hold shift for too long.

idk anymore this really puts me off from able to progress through any contents now since hurts my head big time yet some fights requires to move constently (MCH/BRD has it easy and dnc) since can dps and move but i dont wanna be dancer cause TOO many >.<

[File2ish]

...but i dont wanna be dancer cause TOO many >.<

Don't worry about what other people play. People play dancer because they like it. It is a fun job and aesthetically people like it too.

I know this thread has been about which job has the lowest APM, but if you prefer one job over another don't force yourself to change to one you don't like as much.

And there's also other things to consider other than the job. I haven't looked into each reply so I don't know if any of this has been touched upon, but your mouse and keyboard and your in game keybinds can be key to improving the ergonomics of your setup. Like, I don't know if you use an MMO mouse or not, but having the 9+ buttons on the mouse help a lot from what some of my friends say (I personally use a controller even though I'm on PC). Or if you prefer a normal mouse, Asus recently released their Chakram mouse which has an analog stick on the side, which may be something to consider if you like all your actions on the keyboard since it can free up WASD for more actions. And ESDF is a popular replacement keybinding for movement, feels more natural for some people if you haven't tried movement with those keys.

And as for keybinds, when I played around with M/KB, I found the default setup to be unintuitive. I don't really have any suggestions in this regard, as I said I play on controller. I'm sure you have adjusted it to what's comfortable for you, but perhaps playing around with your key bindings more or changing some peripherals will let you disregard the APM of a job.

[Kolsykol]

idk anymore this really puts me off from able to progress through any contents now since hurts my head big time yet some fights requires to move constently (MCH/BRD has it easy and dnc) since can dps and move but i dont wanna be dancer cause TOO many >.<

The good thing about BLM is that you should be minimizing your movement to begin with .
If you have to move a lot then you're kinda just playing BLM wrong, but on the other hand you need to learn the mechanics well and be good at positioning. But that's something you can practice.

I get what you're saying about Dancer, I used to care a lot about this and play less played classes in MMO's.
But nowadays I don't really care and just play what I want.

[Nedkel]

The fact is, lowest APM jobs are:
1. White mage
2. Black mage
3. Warrior
4. Schoolar
Thats it.

Most of the dps jobs are engaging and fast, require much more from you than a typical healer job (astrologian excluded because its just a clutter).
Machinist usually has over 40 APM, so does ninja, he is on the faster side of spectrum.

Just play what you feel you like the most, carpal tunnel syndrome could be fought in different ways, like adjusting your playing space, buying lighter mouse etc, im pretty sure you should find out what makes it better for you irl than trying to fight the game with it, because no matter what job you are going to play, you Carpal tunnel is going to get worse anywhat if you keep playing the way you are playing right now.

[SpeckledBurd]

I'll note that when people are saying APM here they're actually referring to Casts Per Minute which is the number of Weaponskills and Abilities they will use in a minute, while that's accurate for most jobs the Melee will all be slightly or much higher than the CPM suggests because of positionals. In a vacuum a Monk will reposition around 14-15 times in a minute to hit positionals which absolutely are actions/inputs even if they aren't being tracked as casts just as an example. That will obviously vary based on True North uptime(and Earth's Reply if you're a Monk), but even in the best circumstances you'll only eliminate 1-2 repositionings for non Monk melee with a True North useage, and Monk's useage is circumstantial to the fight (Best case Scenario is E2S where it has around 55% uptime at best, so still 7 additional "actions" as it were over the course of a fight).

But yeah Black Mage is definitely going to be the slowest of the DPS in terms of buttons pressed per minute.

[Drakeos]

Yet don't want to heal or tank due to anxiety so both are out of questions still people saying dancers and rdm only thing but which of em does sorta focus dps dps ?