Monk - Quality of Life Change

[Sora_Oathkeeper]

I would really support these changes. The Anatman change could have nice Synergy with PB to allow the perfect DK > Boot spam without having to use a coeurl skill to refresh. The Brotherhood change would also be highly welcome imo as it negates any RNG off of Weaponskills. Overall, I'd support this change. Would make the job feel more engaging and fun at least until 6.0

[SpeckledBurd]

I like these overall and it feels in line with something they'd be able to in a X.3 patch. It doesn't fix certain problems but at this point I don't think we can expect a mid expansion overhaul on Deep Meditation or DK/Leaden Boothshine's being disproportionate without messing things up and making us lose a burst phase. But still, a big improvement on the total failure the job has been so far in Shadowbringers.

[Shiroe]

Id pref if Twin Snakes usage / rotation was every 2nd combo again (for a few reasons), .. but to keep Mnk positional activ, by turning TK and SSS into 4th combo finishers (TK rear after True Strike and SSS flank after Demolish)

ofc without using up GL stacks after using the 4th combo finishers..

[wereotter]

Generally I think this is a good change, though there are a couple minor tweeks I'd like to see, personally, to make the job feel better than they way you've put things out there, or to make some of these skills work the way you are presenting by their counterparts.

I feel like your changes to Anatman and Perfect Balance are a good change, but still feel like they're bandaids on the current system that requires monks to execute more weapon skills than their counterpart jobs to get the same effect that they do. So to that end, I would like to see this.

Perfect Balance : When in fists of fire, grants 3 stacks of greased lightning. When in fists of wind, grants 4 stacks of greased lightning. Cooldown 30 seconds.

This would bring the skill in line with skills like Blood of the Dragon and Enochian, and could be maybe a level 54 skill if we wanted to balance it around when those jobs get their increases.

With that change, then the effect you wrote for Perfect Balance feels more in line with what you'd expect of Anatman based off its current funcionality. Halt the timer on GL and extend duration to maximum while still allowing the monk to gain GL stacks while active.

[Marxam]

I agree with most of the changes though removing directionals is redundant when RoE exists. If anything I would promote higher potency for hitting positionals but not too extreme. 20-50 potency difference would be nice to reward those monks who love to move while not being too punishing on newer players and again RoE resolves most of these issues. Bortherhood is there to provide raid utility to physical dps and I think it works fine but it does need to be buffed to like 10% dmg especially with the chakra changes OP suggested, which SE really needs to take note of as that is what all monks have been wanting since 4.0. Anatman could easily be resolved if they just give you an instant GL stack on use then after it ticks as normal but they really should just make it a buff that freezes your GL stacks/duration for when you get interrupted with action time events. That's honestly been a pet peeve of mine that I lose my stacks because I had to watch the boss in a cut scene go a bit too long.

[Irisdina_Wiloh]

Fantastic suggestion OP, I really appreciate how much work you put into your post too! I think I'm down with every single one of your alterations here, although with your change to Anatman would it not be possible to gain GL4 in two gcds if you paired it with PB? This is the only tweak I think might be a bit wonky. I feel like most Monk players will agree the majority of the changes are for the better, things like not relying on party comp for Brotherhood procs is something we absolutely need and also having 10 chakra instead of 5 definitely means you should no longer have to worry about eating a potential chakra due to procs.

Honestly I don't even really know what I'd trust SE with changing on Monk in a real rework anymore but I would be really happy with these changes and I think it would go a long way to improving the feel and enjoyment of the job.

[JisKing98]

Personally i would love it if they straight up got rid of positionals as well as all of the abilities that negate them. Annoying to have to constantly move to the sides/back. Just let me punch the dudes in peace in my one spot and only move to do mechanics.
On to your post tho, everything you put on that picture, i love. IMO i would lower TK/SSS to 30cd from 60.

[Kolsykol]

Personally i would love it if they straight up got rid of positionals as well as all of the abilities that negate them. Annoying to have to constantly move to the sides/back. Just let me punch the dudes in peace in my one spot and only move to do mechanics.
On to your post tho, everything you put on that picture, i love. IMO i would lower TK/SSS to 30cd from 60.

I don't really like the idea of getting rid of them completely.
Maybe at least keep them for Dragon Kick and Bootshine at least.
I mean I think that the damage numbers are too low for the positionals to feel rewarding so I honestly wouldn't mind most of them being removed. It does kinda feel like you're putting in way more work for less.
On the other hand I like the tempo and I wouldn't want it removed entirely.

They are a kinda annoying at times tho when bosses just decide to turn randomly or if things are chaotic .

[Carstien]

Aye, I'd definitely prefer if my brotherhood chakra could come from spells too so that it isn't so comp dependent, and give them the 5% buff too. I just feel the skill fits the mnk lore and is at least interesting compared to many other buffs where what the group gives back in return is a tangible resource for me to spend. The proposed chakra change to ten stacks would make it feel better too.

I like tk and sss. Sss used on downtime of only a few seconds but longer than the gcd feels satisfying and right, I do wish I could use it more but it doesn't bother me. Tk is more niche even than that but form shift is a direct loss if I can use it and anatman up at the right time. I admit there could be more places to use it but hey, I enjoy it and the feeling I get when timed perfectly. I do understand why others don't but that's why we are different people with different tastes, you don't have to enjoy everything I do.

The pb change I just don't like. I enjoy gearing for a certain skill speed and the satisfaction of hitting all 6 gcds in pb because I timed it well, especially in difficult or tricky fight phases.

These proposed changes were thought out well and I really wouldn't mind them, they just don't interest me any more than what we have now besides the 10 chakra stacks. I don't think that's wrong of me to say.

[VictorTheed]

Nice pic, other then that I just wish they would give monk a revamp like MCH got in SHB.

If they decide to do that then add a ranged move like the other melee have such as that DRG move were u throw the spear.

Those moves may not be very powerful but those moves are very helpful in solo content for pulling mobs, solo deep dungeon runs, eureka, etc.