My first experience as a tank - I thought I was playing WoW for a second

[yajnaji]

New player, decided to start level a new job: Gunbreaker.

Not even one minute passed...

- dude, are you a bot lmao
- yeah, he's a bot, report him
- you have to pull more than one group
- god you're bad
- etc

I was under the impression that me, as a player, can play the WAY I WANT and I couldn't even explain that this was my first time tanking because the moment I pull the first pack the insults came down.
I was also under the impression that this "community" was... different, but old as I am, I should know by now that EVERY ONLINE GAME IS THE SAME.
I just lost interested to keep playing, honestly.
By the way, I'm reporting the whole party if they are reading this, just so they know.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

I feel you and I'm sorry that you had an bad experience, but may I also suggest that it may be a better idea to start tanking with picking up a level 1 tank-job and not the advanced level 60 class? Because people will expect that you know exactly what to do at that level as a tank and if you get into a level 50+ dungeon they won't expect you to be a first timer.

Also you have a Dragoon Lv 80 so you can't be exactly a new player, unless you bought the level up pack from the shop which is never a good idea because it won't prepare you how to actually play the game, skipping all the tutorial steps. In this case, if you haven't already, I would suggest that you go and visit the beginner arena "hall of novice", you can find it at any starting city near the guest rooms. See also here: https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w..._of_the_Novice

[yajnaji]

Also you have a Dragoon Lv 80 so you can't be exactly a new player, unless you bought the level up pack from the shop which is never a good idea because it won't prepare you how to actually play the game, skipping all the tutorial steps. In this case, if you haven't already, I would suggest that you go and visit the beginner arena "hall of novice", you can find it at any starting city near the guest rooms. See also here: https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w..._of_the_Novice

And now you're treating me like a noob. No, didn't skip anything, but I think I'm still entitled to play the game the way I want.

[BarretOblivion]

You are entitled to play the way you want... but most groups in leveling want to get in and get out of a dungeon quickly so when you get a tank dragging thier feet, yeah people are going to get annoyed at that, signficantly.You picked the lvl 60 tank job at the start, so people are going to expect at that point that you know how to tank, and tanks pull farily large in dungeons. When a tank pulls small 1 of 3 options happen.

1) Healer can't heal large groups.
2) Tank isn't geared.
3) Tank isn't experienced with tanking.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

And now you're treating me like a noob.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, but your first words were literally "New player".

I'm still entitled to play the game the way I want.

Yes and no. FF14 is a multiplayer-game and a dungeon needs you to cooperate with at least 3 other players. So you have to work together and do your best to beat that dungeon. To ensure this, you have a task to do defined by your job-role - so no, you can't just play how you want, you have to play in the best interest of your group. And they may kick you, if you don't.

[yajnaji]

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, but your first words were literally "New player".



Yes and no. FF14 is a multiplayer-game and a dungeon needs you to cooperate with at least 3 other players. So you have to work together and do your best to beat that dungeon. To ensure this, you have a task to do defined by your job-role - so no, you can't just play how you want, you have to play in the best interest of your group. And they may kick you, if you don't.

By playing slower, I don't think I'm endangering the group as a whole. If people want to speed run, they can create pre-mades with their friends and faceroll the whole thing.
I don't buy at all what you're saying.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

You don't need to buy what I'm selling. I was only trying to help.
You may not endanger the group, but most people don't want do play it slow and if they are feeling that you may be wasting their time, they may kick you because of "difference in playstyle".

Also, again, this is mainly an issue in higher-up dungeons. If you haven't experienced tanking yet, I may suggest again to start with one of the basic level 1 tank-jobs, doing the jobquests there and start out with tanking low level dungeons like sastasha, were people are more understanding with new tanks.

[ElazulHP]

By playing slower, I don't think I'm endangering the group as a whole. If people want to speed run, they can create pre-mades with their friends and faceroll the whole thing.
I don't buy at all what you're saying.

Hmm... I understand both points of views here. You want to play slower and take your time, while they want to get in and get out like the majority of the people playing this game. Neither side has the wrong opinion and you also can create a pre-made with your friends and slow roll if you wanted as well. Or if you're in the ShB dungeons use the Trust system. Also, reporting them isn't going to do anything unless they were harassing you and calling you names. Difference of play style is an acceptable reason to kick someone too so *shrug* not much you can do except try again. Make sure you mention at the very beginning of the run you're a new tank and want to go slower while you're learning. You may also want to pick a different tank class while learning to tank first. Gladiator/Paladin is my usual suggestion as it's straight forward and starts at level 1 so you can learn how to run dungeons from the very beginning. Good luck!

[yajnaji]

You don't need to buy what I'm selling. I was only trying to help.
You may not endanger the group, but most people don't want do play it slow and if they are feeling that you may be wasting their time, they may kick you because of "difference in playstyle".

They can kick me sure, no problem... but can they harass me? That's the WHOLE point! If they can harass me, then the game has a problem and the game becomes THE problem, not the community.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

No, harassing someone is never okay and you did right to report them.