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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Given that the lack of AoEs, or AoE potency, is almost universal across melee, I'd honestly rather see the leveling experience made difficult enough to again oblige some focus targeting, melee's former niche.

    By the time any melee has gotten even a single AoE, Ranged are doing 165+ AoE potency per spammable GCD, with Dancer doing 248 in cycles with a 1000-potency AoE per 30 seconds. Monk can only even perform that AoE once per 3 GCDs for at most 143 potency (or an average of ~48 AoE ppgcd). SAM does 100 flat and cannot maintain it. Rogue does 120 flat.

    The thing is, trying to keep each of those skills balanced across that range would require heavy reworks of all the AoEs melee classes get thereafter. Or, it just requires us to go back to when CC, focus targeting, and a decent portion of healer GCDs spent on healing spells were each actually a thing.
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    Xander_Diabolos's Avatar
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    Xander Drakkan
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I realize there are differences between Ranged DPS and Melee DPS with Ranged DPS getting AoEs earlier. My main point I think I missed was to make Doom Spike earlier to establish it as a AoE class early on so later on when it got Sonic Thrust/Coerthan Torment/Geirskogul/Nastrond later it wasn't as much a dramatic change. Also looking at Nin and Sam as a comparison I would totally drop down from 170/200/230 potency combo to like 100/200/300 combo if it meant getting it earlier. I don't think it is asking much considering Drg doesn't have a Dot until much later than both.

    Ninja gets Death Blossom at level 38 - 120 potency AoE
    Ninja gets shadow fang at level 30 - 90 potency DoT

    Sam gets Fuga at level 26 - 100 potency AoE
    Sam gets Iaijutsu (Higanbana) at level 30 - 40 potency DoT

    Drg gets Doom Spike at level 40 - 170 potency AoE
    Drg gets Chaos Thrust at level 50 - 45 potency DoT
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