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    Player BristolRuss's Avatar
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    J'azih Dahj
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    there are still so many FCs (including mine) that desperately trying to get a plot.

    I think the unlock timer should be shorter for FCs than for individual plot owners to give FCs a better chance to finally get a plot so they can use 100% of the FCs function including the workshop witch private plots don't have. Im trying to get a plot since nearly 3 weeks and half of the time or more its snatched away for private player housing.
    Boy you've made a lot of housing threads lately. Secondly, your FC consists of you and someone whose max level is 59, so I'm assuming it's an alt. So drop the 'FC's should get preferential treatment' schtick because you're a solo FC and are just trying to get an unfair advantage.
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    Fiona Silverstorm
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BristolRuss View Post
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    Well its not an alt and everything else i already wrote above. Yea i made some threads about that because it really bugs me. Despite if im a solo FC or not i think FCs should always have priority because they offer bonuses and functions to everyone that normal player housings don't.

    Btw. if i try buying an FC with a plot from another player like suggested, its a big risk for me. Is there any kind of system that prevents the other player of betraying me or a possibility to do something if got betrayed during a trade?
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Coeurl
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Btw. if i try buying an FC with a plot from another player like suggested, its a big risk for me. Is there any kind of system that prevents the other player of betraying me or a possibility to do something if got betrayed during a trade?
    I see that you've joined the house market discord. Read the FAQ and info channels for first time buyers,it'll tell you how the procedure normally goes. There are examples of in-game contracts. Also GMs take trade fraud seriously if you have an in-game contract.
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    Fiona Silverstorm
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Also GMs take trade fraud seriously if you have an in-game contract.
    Is this really written somewhere or just some rdm statement to lure in good faith players? I have spoken to someone whos maybe selling his FCs, but i have really some trust issues with other players in this game since its so easy to betray someone and you have zero security in sutch a trade. Basicly he could just wait until you give him all the money and than log off or something like that. I would highly prefer getting ldr first before i pay anything. I can guarantee that I will keep my part of the deal, but i dont trust other ppl.
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Is this really written somewhere or just some rdm statement to lure in good faith players? I have spoken to someone whos maybe selling his FCs, but i have really some trust issues with other players in this game since its so easy to betray someone and you have zero security in sutch a trade. Basicly he could just wait until you give him all the money and than log off or something like that. I would highly prefer getting ldr first before i pay anything. I can guarantee that I will keep my part of the deal, but i dont trust other ppl.
    ◆Fraud
    "Fraud" Fraud is an act of deception intended to deprive a player of his or her full enjoyment of the game or a player’s property. Fraud occurs most often in agreements between players for trade, loot, or betting:

    - Trade fraud: Fraud relating to the exchange of items or in-game services.
    - Loot fraud: Fraud relating to loot distribution.
    - Bet fraud: Fraud relating to the gambling of gil or other possessions on the outcomes of in-game events (Please note that gambling on the outcomes of events outside of the game, or the gambling of anything other than in-game gil or possessions, is strictly prohibited).

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...=68216&id=5382

    Which, is why an in-game contract is important.
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    Fiona Silverstorm
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    ◆Fraud
    "Fraud" Fraud is an act of deception intended to deprive a player of his or her full enjoyment of the game or a player’s property. Fraud occurs most often in agreements between players for trade, loot, or betting:

    - Trade fraud: Fraud relating to the exchange of items or in-game services.
    - Loot fraud: Fraud relating to loot distribution.
    - Bet fraud: Fraud relating to the gambling of gil or other possessions on the outcomes of in-game events (Please note that gambling on the outcomes of events outside of the game, or the gambling of anything other than in-game gil or possessions, is strictly prohibited).

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...=68216&id=5382

    Which, is why an in-game contract is important.
    Hm i read the FAQ now and its nice to know that they have clarified what is prohibited behaviour to them. But unlike RMT or Account sharing i cant understand what happens if something like that occurs.
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Hm i read the FAQ now and its nice to know that they have clarified what is prohibited behaviour to them. But unlike RMT or Account sharing i cant understand what happens if something like that occurs.
    Player on Gilgamesh conned out of first home

    GM Response to the above player being conned.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BristolRuss View Post
    Boy you've made a lot of housing threads lately. Secondly, your FC consists of you and someone whose max level is 59, so I'm assuming it's an alt. So drop the 'FC's should get preferential treatment' schtick because you're a solo FC and are just trying to get an unfair advantage.
    Eh, two man FC's are a legitimate thing. My own FC is just that - consisting of my character and my partner's character. It might not be the case in the OP's situation but with so many FC's being a den for drama then there's a lot of appeal in the two man model.
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    Kheeziah Toastie
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Eh, two man FC's are a legitimate thing. My own FC is just that - consisting of my character and my partner's character. It might not be the case in the OP's situation but with so many FC's being a den for drama then there's a lot of appeal in the two man model.
    Also some of us are family-only (admittedly this can be a different sort of drama..! ). Me and my daughter are currently the only subscribed players in our FC, Husband subs on occasion. We have other family members who have played in the past so if they did again, we'd invite them to join too, but mostly it's just me and my kid. Not adding anyone I don't know in person to our FC as a result.
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