Suggestion: update and make mandatory Hall of novice tutorial

[Tlamila]

ture but it's still annoying as hell

No doubt about that, it's one of the reasons I hate that place.

[kaynide]

Honestly, just a little addition like explaining basic markers. I've played with a few Lvl 70+ that didn't even know what a stack marker was. Kinda scary

Honestly on this, they should take a week or so to comb old content and adjust markers so the same, specific markers are used in all the fights.
For example, there is a dinosaur like boss in heavensward that picks up and throws slimes with its tail, blue or red with matching colored markers. It is unreasonable to expect anyone to remember specifically that red = gather together when the same generic marker has meant other things in the past.

[AnotherPerson]

Making it mandatory and running with a DF tank who doesn't mitigate will let me know everything there is to know if he/she continues to ignore mitigations after I offer them advice. It'll help me sort out the ones who I can kick or the ones who I shouldn't carry and risk making an even bigger mess at the upper level dungeons because they are prone to ignoring advice. Really, having the Hall of Novices be a standard would help raise the skill level of players drastically. It shouldn't be the case where if I use a role action Rampart / Reprisal, that I'm suddenly better than 50% of the tanks who queue up in DF. It just.. boggles the mind.

[Granyala]

I have no interest in moronic "tutorial" szenarios that do not reflect actual gameplay.

WoW tried this nonsense in Pandara and it didn't work out at all. You still had as many clueless people in dungeons as ever.

[Tlamila]

Honestly on this, they should take a week or so to comb old content and adjust markers so the same, specific markers are used in all the fights.
For example, there is a dinosaur like boss in heavensward that picks up and throws slimes with its tail, blue or red with matching colored markers. It is unreasonable to expect anyone to remember specifically that red = gather together when the same generic marker has meant other things in the past.

Somh Al.
Basically that dungeon has various markers at every boss, all unique not just to the dungeon but to each boss. I really wish they'd rework them into standard ones.

Same thing for World of Darkness. It has a purple marker which everywhere else would be a spread marker, but instead it's a stack marker there, so most people (me included as I keep forgetting) run away with it and die.

Just give every battle the universal markers really, it would alreday save a lot of trouble.