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    Quote Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia View Post
    Eh, can’t agree. Healers being mages is pretty fitting, and even if we get Chemist I would expect it to use the same gear. It’s pretty wasteful to make an entirely different gear category for one job after all.
    Variety is the spice of life and it's long been a common complaint that healer gear is very 'samey' and overly feminine in design. It's also one of the roles most in demand so anything that broadens the roles appeal is a good thing.
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    I agree healers are overly feminine in general, and I'd very much appreciate getting a more edgy healer. Are there people who actually really appreciate the fact healers are so feminine? I'm assuming yes, but not sure. It's still a game where we go about fighting and I'm not sure the feminine style animations and attires are overall really appreciated by both men and women in this context. I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    NIN, and DRG (and for a while, MNK) say hi.
    And none of those have been added remotely recently, which was a big part of what I was saying. Dancer certainly has merit for unique armor, and yet it didn’t get any. I could likely point at others as well. Past Ninja they’ve just kept it the same categories.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Variety is the spice of life and it's long been a common complaint that healer gear is very 'samey' and overly feminine in design. It's also one of the roles most in demand so anything that broadens the roles appeal is a good thing.
    Variety isn’t going to happen with other roles, no reason to try to force it on healers. And healers can have different outfits without reducing the number of magic jobs.
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    A non-magic healer? That's a novel concept, and I would probably really enjoy it. Especially if it involved alchemist as a prerequisite, and you got a maniacal cackle emote every time you lobbed a potion at someone's head like a grenade. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kytrin View Post
    A non-magic healer? That's a novel concept, and I would probably really enjoy it. Especially if it involved alchemist as a prerequisite, and you got a maniacal cackle emote every time you lobbed a potion at someone's head like a grenade. XD
    Honestly, i would love to see Chemist use a Rifle to deliver heals lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    I agree healers are overly feminine in general, and I'd very much appreciate getting a more edgy healer. Are there people who actually really appreciate the fact healers are so feminine? I'm assuming yes, but not sure. It's still a game where we go about fighting and I'm not sure the feminine style animations and attires are overall really appreciated by both men and women in this context. I don't know.
    Chemists... aren’t “edgy”. The only edgy healer that is plausible is a Necromancer, and I strongly doubt that’ll happen when Summoner is basically a reskinned one.

    Chemists also perfectly fit the robes and such of the existing Healer jobs, which is another issue. FFV and TA/TA2 Chemists/Alchemists are plenty robey after all. No reason to shake the wheel. Pushing for different Healer outfits is likely to be better than hoping for a brand new category of healer gear this late in the game.

    As far as outfits for healers go I think that having more gender nonconforming options is good, though I don’t think healers look “girly” really either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia View Post
    Chemists... aren’t “edgy”. The only edgy healer that is plausible is a Necromancer, and I strongly doubt that’ll happen when Summoner is basically a reskinned one.
    Yeah edgy probably wasn't the right word. Didn't mean to say they were edgy though, just "more edgy". Probably incorrect but in my mind I saw "edgy" as the opposite of "graceful/elegant" like how healers are like now, so basically what I meant is something more in the other direction (where edgy would be the extreme outer end perhaps). Not sure how to describe it though, sharper? More angular? Doesn't really matter but maybe interesting to think about the semantics :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Yeah edgy probably wasn't the right word. Didn't mean to say they were edgy though, just "more edgy". Probably incorrect but in my mind I saw "edgy" as the opposite of "graceful/elegant" like how healers are like now, so basically what I meant is something more in the other direction (where edgy would be the extreme outer end perhaps). Not sure how to describe it though, sharper? More angular? Doesn't really matter but maybe interesting to think about the semantics :P
    Eh, while I'm fine saying it possibly could be different from existing Healers I think people are kind of hyping themselves up for something that is unlikely to happen the way they imagine. Nurses after all are plenty "feminine" in terms of stereotypical gender role divisions, and certainly a possible take for Chemists. Magic in general tends to be more refined, and healing magic at least to me gives off the impression of delicate work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia View Post
    Nurses after all are plenty "feminine" in terms of stereotypical gender role divisions
    As a healthcare worker, I just cringed at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    As a healthcare worker, I just cringed at that.
    Note that I'm not saying they are feminine. Just that in terms of stereotypes they are. People like to divide a lot of things along the lines of gender roles in ways that are utterly nonsensical.
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