Whats with the chemist obsession?

[Claire_Pendragon]

Where people fighting for Samurai over dark knight?

People speculated and request the SAM parry tank, while some wanted a melee DPS. (Similar to a 2hand sword DPS, one of which yoshida said would have been a DPS build of PLD, to act as a DPS instead of tank. (PLD, named Knight in JP, had the 2hand ability in prior FFs, so thats where this was going originally))
Yoshida planned out a parry tank SAM, and played around with the idea of DRK tank as well. In the end, SAM didnt have enough fancy stuff, to stand out as a tank, but he felt DRK having MP/magic at its disposal, could allow for more options for tanking, rather than just a parry tank (which he didnt want parry to work on magic attacks)
But he also said he didnt want SAM being a melee DPS. (SAMs are just pretty much the eastern equivalent of a Knight, sorta~) Since he feels a cloth/leather using job would be better, and he he feels SAM should be in platmail like prior FFs, so this DPS job should be called "Rounin".

Or at least, thats how i remember the interview going.

With AST, their cards are there own thing, separate from their main ways to heal.
I think they still could do a Mix mechanic for Chemist but it can't be its main way to heal (it can still be involved with healing though).

Agreed, thats why my suggestion was a sort of "stance" that you alternate with oGCDs. (To help justify a shorter "cast" time (mix time) on the job)
But this does leave issues with DPSing. My only idea left, is to do what WHM does, and "repay" the lost GCD with another GCD for dps. (In this case, a sort of "left over" material/mix, from the potion? idk yet) I also think WHMs "straight forward healer, who reacts" playstyle, should be the healer with a 2s GCD. Its not like they do a lot of extra weaving, due to the long cast times, and lack of oGCDs compared to other healers. (technically not the number, but the long CD leaving them w/o oGCDs for far too long)

EDIT: hit post limit for the day, so cant reply till tomorrow.

[Nihility]

I think it's just people wanted the chemist aesthetic

They already said in an interview wayyy back that astrologian was chemist and they basically just reskinned it to fit the ishgard theme. Kind of makes the tarot cards thing a lot cooler thinking about it as getting random ingredients and working with them for different effects

and the cripple skill was probably originally akin to arm shot

and the stances were probably something cool like mixing powders or potions

astrologian is just a constant bummer lol

[Adrameliya]

I didn't understand the obsession either, but now that I read people answers in this thread I really want Chemist too.
The whole "make potions in real time and throw it at people" would not only be funny but also very interresting. I'm not sure how Chemist worked in the previous FF, but something like Big Hero 6 Honey Lemon's abilities would be nice.

Edit : didn't read 5th and 6th pages, should have !

it's a pipe dream, but I keep saying it'd be fun if it were a healer NIN of sorts;

A = regen
A + B = instant aoe heal
A + B + C = ground target heal
A + C = reduced damage buff
B + C = vulnerability debuff
etc

Who remembers Honey Lmeon from Big Hero 6 who makes bombs by pressing the periodic table on her purse?

This is exactly what I was thinking about !

[MirronTulaxia]

It's a well known job and in terms of healers there aren't exactly any low hanging fruit left (we really ran out of them pretty much with White Mage outside of Chemist). Granted for me that's exactly why I don't want it, I want to see what they come up with. That and DoW already have three roles to their name, and a DoM tank isn't going to happen, so I'd rather they keep the divide in place.

[Seraphor]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ea-for-Chemist

This is my idea for a Chemist.

Basically you have your basic heal, then three things you can add to it (as oGCD kinda like Dark Arts) a Regen, a Shield or a potency boost.
These can be mixed in any combination you like, but of course they cost mp, so you basically have total control over your mp:heal ratio and the freedom to use regens and shields as you like/need.

[Sylve]

Why not borrow a little from Dancer and Scholar?

Rather than Mudra style Mixing (Crap, i messed up a Mix and now the party is dead because i needed that AoE!), perhaps set it up so it works a little like Aetherflow in that you have stacks which allow the use of specified potent heals and then mix in Dancer's Steps a little. Whereby you would activate a 'Mix" command, then have a limited time to mix up several different heals which are stored as Charges similar to Aetherflow, except they'd be separated, so its not 1 charge for 6 different Heals, but a charge per Mixed Heal.

You could for example, have 10 maximum charges and you choose from Cure, Medica, Regen, Shield and any other unusual heals like Excog style trigger heal or delayed heals like Earthly Star.
Then you'd Mix 5 Cures, 2 Medicas and 3 Regens for example. Or any other config as you feel needed for a given fight. Which would allow you to use them as needed.
So you'd choose which Heals you'd like to mix and store ready for use, while having basic Cure/Medica type 'weak' heals when you dont need to use a Mixed Heal.

[Theodric]

It's a neat concept for a healer job and the game is sorely in need of a healer with different gear aesthetics to the other three.

[MirronTulaxia]

It's a neat concept for a healer job and the game is sorely in need of a healer with different gear aesthetics to the other three.

Eh, can’t agree. Healers being mages is pretty fitting, and even if we get Chemist I would expect it to use the same gear. It’s pretty wasteful to make an entirely different gear category for one job after all.

[Morningstar1337]

Eh, can’t agree. Healers being mages is pretty fitting, and even if we get Chemist I would expect it to use the same gear. It’s pretty wasteful to make an entirely different gear category for one job after all.

NIN, and DRG (and for a while, MNK) say hi.

[Theodric]

Eh, can’t agree. Healers being mages is pretty fitting, and even if we get Chemist I would expect it to use the same gear. It’s pretty wasteful to make an entirely different gear category for one job after all.

Variety is the spice of life and it's long been a common complaint that healer gear is very 'samey' and overly feminine in design. It's also one of the roles most in demand so anything that broadens the roles appeal is a good thing.