Geomancer

[BasicBlake]

There should be a Healer and a Caster coming. But Geomancer theoretically could be either. Or maybe it just doesn't show up at all.

I wouldn’t see why it would come as a healer since the lore we have for them as well as established enemies are all caster.

[MirronTulaxia]

I wouldn’t see why it would come as a healer since the lore we have for them as well as established enemies are all caster.

The lore we have for them has them compared to Astrologians, and the NPC Geomancer we have was close to being a variant White Mage. As well enemies tend to be... well, offensive, you don't (for good reason) see much in the way of dedicated healers.

I'm not saying it will be a healer. Just that I wouldn't write it off so soon.

[BasicBlake]

The lore we have for them has them compared to Astrologians, and the NPC Geomancer we have was close to being a variant White Mage. As well enemies tend to be... well, offensive, you don't (for good reason) see much in the way of dedicated healers.

I'm not saying it will be a healer. Just that I wouldn't write it off so soon.

In this regard, they are compared to AST because they draw power from star(s), and Kyokohu is using placeholder conjurer animations. Enemies tend to be offensive when they are coded to be offensive or the class is! If you look at thaumaturge enemies versus conjurer enemies, the conjurer ones always use Cure/Ronkan Cure.

The lorebook goes more into how Hien's father dispatched groups of Geomancers and shinobi to bring down airships, as well as Ganen learning the school of magic from Tengu. In all of Ganen's story and lore he wasn't said to being Yanxia together by healing his way through the fields. So there is a bit more lore, you just have to pay or it. haha

[SeikishiYuuki]

Also the relation to GEO and AST, Kyo calls Astrologians divination the foil to Geomancers fortune telling. Foil being to contrast...one using the stars and their connection the other using the earthly leylines...not that they're both healing or really much of the sort. The comparison to CNJ is that both use Wind Water and Earth as their primary elemental aethers... The reason he uses CNJ animation is they're tied to the 1.0 weapon he has likely cause Geo was originally meant as CNJ DPS job, like SMN and SCH. Sure you could argue he has a healing spell, but so does a Ninja npc, Monk NPC...and like 4 others...

[MirronTulaxia]

Also the relation to GEO and AST, Kyo calls Astrologians divination the foil to Geomancers fortune telling. Foil being to contrast...one using the stars and their connection the other using the earthly leylines...not that they're both healing or really much of the sort. The comparison to CNJ is that both use Wind Water and Earth as their primary elemental aethers... The reason he uses CNJ animation is they're tied to the 1.0 weapon he has likely cause Geo was originally meant as CNJ DPS job, like SMN and SCH. Sure you could argue he has a healing spell, but so does a Ninja npc, Monk NPC...and like 4 others...

I mean, there has been a dedicated healing Ninja in the past (Izayoi), and Monks do have Chakra. But my point is just that they have pointed out connections to other healing jobs. Could they be a Caster? Definitely. My point is that they could be a Healer too. So far nothing rules them out as one.

[MartaDemireux]

Whether GEO is a healer or not, I wouldn't be upset if unlocking GEO required getting CNJ to 30. Don't confuse this as a split job like ACN, but rather like ROG needing another class at level 15 to unlock. This way, the lore is there, not needing to be changed but applied in a different way - perhaps as a caster that gets to really make strong use of Wind/Earth/Water magic to be more of a counter to BLM.

For example, leveling CNJ to 30 unlocks that other door in the CNJ guild. The Kugane Geomancers open a school of geomancy in that room. GEO is then unlocked with its own story and lore but piggybacked on CNJs lore. No shared skills, no shared leveling, just two similar schools of magic working together. I can think of several jobs that could benefit from a system like this to see their inclusion in the game (such as ARC being required to unlock BRD but progressing into RNG for those that don't want to play music).

[BasicBlake]

I mean, there has been a dedicated healing Ninja in the past (Izayoi), and Monks do have Chakra. But my point is just that they have pointed out connections to other healing jobs. Could they be a Caster? Definitely. My point is that they could be a Healer too. So far nothing rules them out as one.

He is talking about FFXIV though. In certain missions people like Yugiri get some form of heal to help you along through the quest, not talking about setting the precedent for a dedicated ninja healer. The astro quest lines did talk about how they had some similarities, but nowhere in the game or books compared Geomancer to conjurer, that is purely player talk on the forums. Levava has spent how many expansions now, and Eorzea years around conjurers and white mages, yet she refers to Kyokohu's school of magic as it's own. Not as a Far Eastern Conjurer, and not as an offshoot of Astrologians.

Could they make this the first ever healing Geomancer? Yes. Would it be dumb, also yes.

[Zarkovitch]

There a way to make a healer but it going hard to fit 4th without killing 1 of the 3 healers. I mean look tanks they are all viable.But they make WAR less appealing to be one man army. So I guess WHM or SCH will get less appealing threatment on the next expansion to fit the 4th healer.

[Morningstar1337]

There a way to make a healer but it going hard to fit 4th without killing 1 of the 3 healers. I mean look tanks they are all viable.But they make WAR less appealing to be one man army. So I guess WHM or SCH will get less appealing threatment on the next expansion to fit the 4th healer.

Consider this: Starting from 72, WHM's elemental spells were changed to light spells, it's likely a part of the reason this talk of healer GEO is even hapening, so so it already is happening.

[BasicBlake]

I would be willing to acknowledge Geomancer healer as a slight possibility if the Sai TaiSui monsters in Swallow’s Compass were healer coded. Look at the conjurer guys in Grand Cosmos. They heal. Look at any Thaumaturge enemy in any dungeon from 15-80, they use Thaumaturge abilities. They always keep dungeon version of classes true to their role.