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1. My stance on Job Fantasy, insofar as you guys keep treating it as a thing, is that if any job is too similar to another, regardless of role, then there is an issue. I don't believe Geomancer is too similar to White Mage. They could both be Healer, Tank, DPS, whatever, I would not consider them the same thing. If they are, then they shouldn't be added. Because I don't believe any job is to similar to another regardless of role, and I would rather not see that change.

2. I mean, you are misinterpreting it because you're fixating on specifically Geomancer as a healer when I don't see the job fantasy as dependent on roles.

3. It's perfectly reasonable. If a job is so shallow it can't stand on its own two legs then it shouldn't be added. Add a job that has more depth. I don't agree with the stance that Geomancer is shallow, but if that's the stance you guys want to take then so be it. As for what I'm advocating for I've said it several times. I even gave you a specific post that you could check. If you can't be bothered to read what's being said then you're really just doing what you're accusing me of.

4a. Red Mage and Scholar have a separate job fantasy that is independent of role, so I'm not sure how this is proving my premise wrong. Though Scholar is not exactly consistent. One need only look at TA2 to see that calling it "Black and White Magic" isn't an absolute.

4b. Samurai and Ninja are as different as White Mage and Geomancer to me, so not sure the argument you're making makes sense.

4c. Again, all of these jobs have a unique core aspect that differentiates them and would be the same regardless of the role they're in. Like Bard and Dancer, which are both in the same role (and even same subcategory of the role).

4d. And as I said, Scholar and Summoner represent different job fantasies, so even if Scholar was a Caster or Summoner a Healer they are different things and can stand on their own just fine.

5. Saying I feel something is not the same as saying it's absolutely true. And none of what I'm doing is opposing the popular option for what it is. Though combined with this and your last sentence it seems like you're just making an appeal to popularity.