Geomancer

[MirronTulaxia]

It’s been two years but this is an almost exact word for word copy paste of every thread on Dancer before they were shown.
“Dancer has never been a healer why would they do it now?” Vs “Devs can do whatever they want”.

Though the devs have stayed pretty true to all class roles and class fantasy or every class put into the game. But hey I guess they could always start with 6.0!

Class fantasy is subjective, and in terms of roles I could go through most jobs in this game and poke holes at their roles. As far as Dancers being healers Penelo in Revenant Wings is one.

And you have yet to acknowledge the very clear and obvious Conjurers not doing healing. The point being made is not "Geomancers will be a healer" but instead is "nothing says that Geomancers absolutely will be a Caster". I would say they could be either. It's only if you tried to say they'll be a tank or some such that I'd find it doubtful. I'm not sure why "they could be a healer" is such a heretical subject.

[BasicBlake]

Class fantasy is subjective, and in terms of roles I could go through most jobs in this game and poke holes at their roles. As far as Dancers being healers Penelo in Revenant Wings is one.

And you have yet to acknowledge the very clear and obvious Conjurers not doing healing. The point being made is not "Geomancers will be a healer" but instead is "nothing says that Geomancers absolutely will be a Caster". I would say they could be either. It's only if you tried to say they'll be a tank or some such that I'd find it doubtful. I'm not sure why "they could be a healer" is such a heretical subject.

What conjurers are not healing? I wasn’t aware I was avoiding anything I apologize! Stop being vague and alluding to stuff. Obviously if I am not aware of what conjurers are not able to heal I would have said something so out with it, don’t just accuse someone of avoiding something when you haven’t actually given in information.

While I agree class fantasy is subjective to you, most final fantasy classes have fit a very particular fantasy for 20 years. So we have a game where Dancer was mixed with white mage for Penelo and another game where dancer was mixed with geomancer. And umpteen games where dancer is just dancer. What classes in 14 (outside the obvious bard) would you say 14 has done wrongly or strayed away from the overall job/fantasy? Also looking over the wiki for the game, Penelo is the closest I would say to a healing role but in context of the game, that is still a support slot we do not have in 14. So yes over the span on the 20+ years Final Fantasy has been around, there are bound to be outliers. But overall the dancer class has been a support dps.

I feel like you pick and choose what you gleen from posts by others. When we said conjurer was said to be similar in the lore book you took that as us thinking the classes were identical. And when we say, “yeah I can see that, but I still feel it would be too similar for that role” you take it as us saying that it is 100% set in stone. Going back multiple pages multiple people have said “Yes we see where you are
Coming from but we think that is lazy on the side of designers so we don’t think so”.

[SeikishiYuuki]

Class fantasy is subjective, and in terms of roles I could go through most jobs in this game and poke holes at their roles. As far as Dancers being healers Penelo in Revenant Wings is one.

And you have yet to acknowledge the very clear and obvious Conjurers not doing healing. The point being made is not "Geomancers will be a healer" but instead is "nothing says that Geomancers absolutely will be a Caster". I would say they could be either. It's only if you tried to say they'll be a tank or some such that I'd find it doubtful. I'm not sure why "they could be a healer" is such a heretical subject.

Penelo interesting is in fact a White Mage - Dancer hybrid her healing abilities come from her White Magick so not really Healer Dancer. Since none of the Dancer abilities heal iirc.

[BasicBlake]

Penelo interesting is in fact a White Mage - Dancer hybrid her healing abilities come from her White Magick so not really Healer Dancer. Since none of the Dancer abilities heal iirc.

She's new Mog. Plus it's a game where you can make most of your characters do whatever you want. I could have gone Dancer/White Mage in XI but there is no way I was going to be a healer.

So once again, I get you're playing Devils Advocate Mirron, but Penelo being able to dance wasn't going to make dancer a healer in FFXIV.