Quote Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia View Post
1. And Ishgardian Astrologians wound up looking entirely differently from what we got. Which is kind of my point. Though even if they focus only on those elements it still doesn't make it the same thing, because again, point five talks about Red Mage. It literally uses elements from other jobs, and shares things that at first blush look similar to Black Mage (balancing two different things, and uses two of the same elements while being in the same role). Obviously it didn't turn out the same though in spite of sharing similarities because using the same element is pretty minor when all is said and done.
No they didn’t. Because Ishgardian Astrologians were nothing but a couple of npc’s at a camp, there wasn’t a full expansion+ of story and dungeons for them. So it’s not that similar. We have quest, backstory, a book, multiple dungeons, that is a lot more to retcon opposed 3 npc’s you have no interaction with.

And yes I know how red mage works I have been playing one since 2006. It plays exactly how you expect it to. And it uses black and white magic just like it always has. That is much different that the lore book saying “this class is very similar to conjurer.”