1. My point with Hildebrand is that depictions in it aren't something I would take at face value. Hence the Goldsmith comparison. All sorts of odd things happen in it that wouldn't make a lot of sense.

2. I would still call that a fate related thing personally. But Fate vs Time is up for debate on how people interpret it.

3. My point was more they'd still have Mage aesthetics. The aesthetics they use are pretty much the same as Scholar and that's apparently the same as all the rest.

4. I mean, we don't even know what Geomancers would focus on, so that's jumping the gun pretty early. They could just as easily use all six. Fire, Ice, and Lightning sprites are after all summoned by the spirit of the great forest, and that's certainly a very Geomancer kind of vibe. They may not use any elements, or be purely Earth, or any number of hypothetical answers.

5. Ultimately there is a lot more to a job than the specific elements they use. Red Mage does not feel like a copy of Black and White Mage even though it uses the same elements after all. It even has a balancing act like Black Mage and is a DPS like it as well. Calling them the same thing even with more overlap than a hypothetical Geomancer with a White Mage is pretty absurd and is a vast reduction of how the jobs work.