Geomancer

[MirronTulaxia]

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1. Sure, any number of jobs could be a healer. I feel like it's more sensible for the change if it's specifically a healer, but I'm not going to say absolutely it has to be. In terms of what is "sensible" or not I feel like people place a bit too much focus on how sensible it is when most of the time jobs are just DPS. Those examples, outside of Chemist (I'm not sure what Shaman is, there are a couple things I can think of it being but in one case it's definitely not a healer and in the other case it's not called Shaman) are still mostly DPS or Support after all, that's how jobs outside of MMOs work.

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1. Whether it feels lazy or not is really a matter of how they implement it to me. My ideas for Geomancer, for instance, would involve static AoE terrain where you get different spells depending on what terrain you're in that you created. If people call that the same as White Mage that says more about them than it does about the concept.

2. Honestly I think people are focusing really specifically on Aero/Stone when it doesn't have to be those specifically and more the themes they represent.

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1. I wouldn't say they're arbitrary in XIV, because again, as I said, there is a reason for why White Mage has the elements it has. Specifically to contrast Black Mage. You might not agree with how meaningful it is, but it isn't arbitrary.

2. Having elemental weaknesses in other games doesn't make it any more or less arbitrary in other games really.

3. Combust and Art of War fit the aesthetic of their respective jobs still.

4. You... kind of do have to identify a logical fallacy rather than just throwing out a blanket catch all in an attempt to shut things down. And none of what I said is a hasty generalization. I didn't say "all X is Y based off of one instance" or some such. Slothful Induction is also known as an appeal to coincidence, if anything that would be your stance. Causal Fallacy is specifically if I am claiming the wrong cause for something (and at no point have I claimed absolutely what is happening). I'm not saying X is happening because of Y, but am saying if X is happening because of Y, here is why that would make sense and why that does not. Lastly I'm not incredulous at all, but given the way you're tossing out logical fallacies and the way in which you're using them it certainly seems likely.

5. Using a standard response to an argument that isn't being made isn't exactly a good policy. That you misread what my argument is only shows in how you used that argument.

6. One doesn't mean the other, but again, they don't do things for no reason.

7. Honestly I find your explanation pretty weak given how Holy is used. Holy isn't exactly the most impressive of spells, so Quake or what have you wouldn't be crazy. In terms of suffixes they could just make up one as well.

8. Whether we know the cause or not there is a cause behind any event really.

9. It really doesn't edge on Burden of Proof because at no point have I said you must do it, I simply asked for any theories. If you can't provide any theories then your argument inevitably falls apart to me, but that's a problem for you to solve not something I insist from you.

Unrelated point to this all, can I say how much I hate the limited posts per day bit? I'd like to reply to everyone individually but the limited posts mean I can't really talk much if I do that.