Endgame content is too stressfull and difficult

[Karshan]

To me, Fun can come from different sources, mainly relaxation / entertainement (I call it "the vibe"), and focus / accomplishment (I call it "the flow"). These are two very, very different streams.

High End Raiding isn't supposed to be fun from the "vibe". It's for the "flow" crowd, who are seeking accomplishment, and get off from overcoming limits. Some are seeking the gear, yes, but I can tell you all are mainly seeking the challenge, cause let's face it BiS gear is useless if you don't parse (or go Ultimate, and even there it's later dungeon gear that is BiS, not savage). That's a small flaw of this game but eh.

There is a way to upgrade ilevel with more time, which is the hunting and the 24 raid both coming 5 months later. But indeed it's only for tome gear so not complete BiS. Maybe the system could be improved so that you can buy Savage gear with 2x2 raid 24 pieces for instance, after the limitations are lifted. For people who are really reward oriented.

I wouldn't be opposed to it and even as a raider wouldn't feel my own accomplishments tarnished because people get the same gear 5 months later : it WILL rot anyway in a few months given the vertical game progression design.

I would much rather have that, than difficulty lowered which would ruin the fun of the game for the "flow" people.

So OP, maybe that content isn't for you, OR maybe you just need a bit of patience and improve little by little and you'll get there. Back in the days I started the game my FC brought me in T5. I thought Gemellia was the hardest content I'd ever face (and fail at it). Now I regularly kill Savage 4th floor and parse okayish with my reroll's roster (granted, Savage level has dropped a bit with each extension. Except E8S, shit was as hard as Alexander in min ilvl). And there are even better player who clear ultimates. I progress in it but don't have the level / dedication.

My point is : you can come from "meeeeh, extreme is hard" to 1st, then 2nd then 3rd, then 4th floor level. Just takes time and patience. And practice. A lot of practice.

[Ever_]

It is Savage it suppose to be at least little challenging. What is even this troll QQ

[Besame]

I won't go near hm/savage content. Getting older now after 22+ yrs of MMOing and not interested anymore, I like to relax. I get my gear from nuts/hunts for the crystarium augmented and leave it be. I just wish I could use nuts to get a comparable blue MH, tired of always having the green HQ augmented MH.

[RoyalDecree]

As a hardcore raider myself with ultimates cleared my opinion on this savage tier is that it has been nerfed a lot already because of the past complaints of raids being too hard compared to past tiers. E5S-E7S took me 3 days to clear all 3 of them in pugs; E8S took me a week to clear in pugs. My opinion on this is the gear is considered best in slot for a reason and savage raids should be made difficult to force people to have to work hard to earn it. The only way to improve at raiding and optimize your main class you use to raid is to just practice and prog the fights as much as you can; eventually you'll know the fights and the mechanics in the fight so much from muscle memory that you can do the fights on auto pilot and just farm them for gear. There is no better feeling than clearing your first ultimate or savage raid that you spent hours progging on putting all your effort into it in my opinion.

With that being said, I understand some people are just not into the raiding scene at all and that's completely fine. If the current savage raids are too difficult for you I highly recommend you take the time to learn and optimize your class; anyone can become a good raider as long as they put time and effort into it. You always have the option to just not raid at all if you really dislike it that much, noone is forcing you to stick it out.

[Corbeau]

There's already little enough in this game that offers a challenge, don't gut what remains.

Though Light Rampant, specifically, can die in a fire.

[SnowVix]

There's already little enough in this game that offers a challenge, don't gut what remains.

Though Light Rampant, specifically, can die in a fire.

i wouldn't object as much to Light Rampant if it were more like Icelit Dragonsong or like E1S where you can bait specific roles for it. E8S already has enough randomness to it, a baitable Light Rampant would just make things nice and consistent (not necessarily easier, just consistent)

[Absurdity]

The issue with Light Rampant is mainly the PF's mindset. They chose to use a shit strat for it that costs you way too much uptime but since nobody actually likes standing around for 10 seconds doing nothing they either get lucky and can turn their brain off with the chain or they greed on orbs and wipe everyone.


Light Rampant isn't the problem, people are...yet again.


So quick PSA: Ilya is not a good Light Rampant strat.

[SnowVix]

So quick PSA: Ilya is not a good Light Rampant strat.

Even Ilya himself says that. It was an early prog strat that turned out to be functional but not great, but inertia unfortunately means that it's the only one in Aether PF (though a couple have tried to get Ayatori parties started there)

[Liam_Harper]

I'm not sure Ilya's the main problem with LR. It's certainly not the optimal strat and rougher on uptime, but it's fairly safe and easy to understand. PF's problem there would be greeding on orbs or lack of focus and groups that can't get through with Ilya are probably going to wipe non-stop on other strats too.

It's a mechanic with a whole number of ways to wipe your entire team at a single slip up and it's quite hard to see who causes the wipe. It only takes one player being greedy, unfocused or just not that good at difficult mechanics to make it a wipefest. I like it as a mechanic, it's satisfying to see it go like clockwork with 8 people, but I can understand why it's a nightmare in PF.

[Absurdity]

I'm not sure Ilya's the main problem with LR. It's certainly not the optimal strat and rougher on uptime, but it's fairly safe and easy to understand. PF's problem there would be greeding on orbs or lack of focus and groups that can't get through with Ilya are probably going to wipe non-stop on other strats too.

My point still stands, Ilya is probably the worst strat ever to pick for a PF that is used to constant greeding. PF isn't gonna change anytime soon so maybe they should just finally adapt a strat that supports it better.