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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I feel that a lot of people just have short attention spans, and they require constant stimulation to be enjoying something, to be honest.

    I really don't think an MMO, any MMO, is going to be their cup-of-tea, really. At least not one that uses an ability hotkey system like FFXIV or WoW or others like it do.

    They keep yammering about jobs being "too simple" and they keep yammering about "the old days" but they are forgetting that it wasn't really all that more complex or interesting back then, really. Was it really more interesting to spam flash and dump fast blade and savage blade by tab-targeting through mobs? Are they really trying to say that was somehow more interesting?

    Or the healers who complain about DPS being "too easy" ... I dunno about SCH and AST (I didn't get to them until late Stormblood) but I remember WHM being Stone, Aero, and Aero II (along with Cleric Stance which half of the time they got people killed with anyhow). Now we have Stone, Aero, and Misery. I mean, at least the lillies system has actual use now, unlike in Stormblood?

    I'm just not really seeing how that's actually any less "interesting" and "complex" than it was before. I think the main crux of the problem is that people have rose-colored goggles from when they were more new to the game, and they've played it for hundreds of hours, and they've just simply put too much time in it and they look back on days where they had less playtime when they hadn't burned out so much and they mistake their lack of fun today as being because of the changes made to the game, rather than just simply the passage of time.

    This is why Yoshi-P wants you to take breaks from FFXIV now and then. Clear a tier of content, play something else, come back rather than hack away at the time every single day, or week until new content comes out.

    To be honest? I played WoW up to this past November. I can tell you that there's not much more complexity there either, it's just faster button presses, with lots of filler abilities that don't really seem interesting whatsoever. You want to talk about boring? I could name you some WoW jobs that aren't even half as complex as XIV's. But yet people talk like XIV is somehow "boring" or something and it kinda feels like they're pointing at WoW. The only thing WoW does better, is give you a bit more conditional abilities, but even then ... sometimes I feel like that's a bad thing because of how bad RNG can screw you and refuse to proc what you need to proc (kind of like how BLM can go 10+ fires in a row and not get a single firestarter and the next fight, he gets 3 in a row).

    I think people should just take the rose-colored goggles off and try to calm down, and chill some. If you're getting THAT bored of the game that nothing will please you, why not just take a break like Yoshi-P asks, and come back when 5.3 comes out. It sounds like you just simply need new content, and a little time away.

    To the OP, I'll again re-iterate something I said before in this and other threads: Low-Level is always boring. Do you remember what low-level was like during WoW? Where you had 2-3 abilities you used, and it was like this clear up until Lv30? 40? FFXIV is no different. I started a Druid last year, when I unlocked Zandalari Trolls and their dino druid forms. I was bored to tears because of the fact I only had like 3 attacks that I spammed over and over and over and over again. Rake Mangle Mangle Bite, dead. Rake Mangle Mangle Bite, dead. Rake mangle mangle bite, dead.

    *yawn*

    In fact... that's the core of the gameplay even at Lv50-ish when I quit around November. I just had a bunch of other situational buttons I may or may not use once in a blue moon.

    Maybe I should raid <.<.
    FFXIV is one of the only games I would encourage common people to try raiding in. Normal Raids are, at least IMO, reasonably fun but yet accessible to, I'd say, 30-50% of the playerbase.

    If you're already raiding Normal but not Savage... well, you can try that. lol. It's far harder. There, you'll be glad you have time while doing your rotations to keep track of all the stuff going on that bosses do.

    EDIT: Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but even at Lv120, doesn't WoW's Prot Paladin tanking look something like this:

    1). Throw Shield when possible.
    2). Use Hammer until 3+ Holy Power
    3). Use the Shield Slam or self-heal
    4). Repeat

    to tank a group of mobs, basically? There's a couple filler buttons, but I remember this being basically the core of the class's "rotation". And/or if you chose a talent you might get a free shield slam or self-heal now and then.
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    Last edited by Maeka; 05-14-2020 at 05:40 PM.