Getting a New House Feels Impossible

[Drkdays]

Go back to limiting housing to FC's or whatever other measures are needed. But this current madness and people (rightly) flipping out on the forum and not receiving any kind of official statement (and I'm speaking of Ishgard restoration stuff here), about their future intentions for housing is just disturbing to me. I'd like to know just what we are getting from all this ishgardian restoration stuff, is it more of the same? Is it anything at all other than some npc's giving us an atta'boy? Is it going to be an instanced version of a house that we can upgrade over time given to us through the course of the MSQ? Is it just gonna be a small house that everyone gets as a starter home that will NOT be upgrade-able? Just give us something to at least give people an idea of what to expect. If it just HAS to be a super top secret secret, I don't think it'll be a secret when your players start flipping back out about the same song and dance getting sung and danced.

Please forgive the multi-posts the automated forum controls kept me from posting a longer post, and also limited by time as well.

Well, maybe if this forum grows big enough we'll get a response.

[Drkdays]

Then again, maybe not...

[hynaku]

They just need to make it instance housing like how it is for Elder Scrolls Online that would fix the problem and I also like how housing is shared with all your characters on the same account.

[Barraind]

Every MMO has a problem with RMT. None have combated it successfully.

RMT will never be something you can beat without fully embracing it, especially now.

As long as you can buy weeks or months worth of in-game currency for a couple hours work, it's a trade you'll ALWAYS find both buyers and sellers willing to make.

Lets look at an example:

I can get 2mil ESO gold for $45 (PC - NA). 2mil gold translates, through in-game trading to roughly 13,333 crowns (it fluctuates from 120g:1 crown to 180g:1 crown, but 150:1 is common, if slightly on the high end, I personally wouldnt buy in bulk higher than 130/135:1 because you can find SOMEONE selling at those prices if you look hard enough) . Crowns have a purchase value of 1650 for $14.99 through the ESO+ subscription, or slightly worse rates for direct purchase (3000 for $29.99).

If I want to buy premium currency (for character slots past 9 on a server, or permanent unlocking of dlc, or a house, or glam mounts, ect) my return is 270% for buying currency from farmers (you can legitimately farm 60-100k an hour of tradeskill mats with the right end-game builds) versus buying it direct.


Then you get into why else you might want currency in various games (14 has one of the weakest currency economies because its complete aversion to horizontal gear progression and lack of quality gold sinks means money accumulates far faster than it can ever be spent), and you'll never get away from the math that it's easier to spend 1-2 hours of discretionary income than tens or hundreds of free time hours farming currency.

Hand in hand with that, if you are playing regularly and arent taking breaks or only take breaks when demolition timers are paused, a ff14 house is an investment. It will, unless you dont use ships or gardening, eventually make back every gil spent to purchase it.

[KayRadley]

I'm going to bottom-line things here. With the pandemic going on, housing is in all likelihood the absolute last item on Squeenix's list of priorities. If a major patch can be delayed by COVID, your options are twofold: settle for an apartment, or give up on getting a house altogether.

[Awha]

You could also try your hand at going to bot route, or buy an FC from someone who has a house.

[Kenky]

You could also try your hand at going to bot route, or buy an FC from someone who has a house.

Both of which are technically bannable offenses, under SE's ToS agreements. So if you go this route (which I'm adamantly saying not to, mind!) then you're painting a target on your back. It's only a matter of time before you get caught.

I say this in the comfortable belief that botting is bad (duh..) and SE has said several times that they do not want the price of plots being within the players control, as it would cause the rather obvious problem it has already caused. shell FCs being sold on a website that SE has no power over and thus, being unable to use the multitude of people using their ingame names to advertise who they are, what ward / plot / house they have and how much they want people to 'gift' them for ownership.

The evidence is there, clear as day. But SE can't use it, as it would break a few laws purely on a technicality and cause the company far more damage than I'm assuming they want to take. Though they could always.. Y'know. Get permission from the website owners to use the information stored on their websites but that is full of holes in its own right.

[Awha]

Both of which are technically bannable offenses, under SE's ToS agreements. So if you go this route (which I'm adamantly saying not to, mind!) then you're painting a target on your back. It's only a matter of time before you get caught.

I say this in the comfortable belief that botting is bad (duh..) and SE has said several times that they do not want the price of plots being within the players control, as it would cause the rather obvious problem it has already caused. shell FCs being sold on a website that SE has no power over and thus, being unable to use the multitude of people using their ingame names to advertise who they are, what ward / plot / house they have and how much they want people to 'gift' them for ownership.

The evidence is there, clear as day. But SE can't use it, as it would break a few laws purely on a technicality and cause the company far more damage than I'm assuming they want to take. Though they could always.. Y'know. Get permission from the website owners to use the information stored on their websites but that is full of holes in its own right.

A ToS rule that is not enforced expect on very rare occasions personally is low on my worry list. Sure the chance remains but if I did not have a plot i would rather go the bot or by FC route instead of manunally clicking the ssme sign for hours.

The reality is it is highly unlikely that one will face an ingame ban for buying Gil or a house unless they tell the wrong people ingame. My sample size is small, but our FC had a player that streamed their crafting and mb bot and our entire FC reported them since it caused some server drama nothing happened. Man still plays and streams their boting adventure.

SE actions show otherwise sure the chance remains but at this point expecting punicishment from SE is akin to expecting the tooth fairy to show up. I get it people like to follow the rules, but if those rules work against you by not punishing those thst hsve broken the rules. I do not fault or blame others if they go down that route.

In short i do not think it is painting s target back.

[Jibs]

My 2 cents. Finding a house is impossible. One was recently relinquished on my server....then was spammed by 20 other people. System is terrible. FFXIV is a great game but the housing system is trash.

There needs to be a special market board in each housing area to immediately see whats open and buy it instead of manually clicking every ward to see whats open.


Edit - I also understand that auto demolish is off at the moment due to Corona. That was nice of them to do for people who cant play at the moment. However my gripe is the overall system needs an update on buying, searching etc.

[LaylaTsarra]

My 2 cents. Finding a house is impossible. One was recently relinquished on my server....then was spammed by 20 other people. System is terrible. FFXIV is a great game but the housing system is trash.

The number of people spamming right now is very high given auto demolition is turned off and people are home due to Covid and have a lot more time to house sit. The only houses going up for sale are those where people have voluntarily relinquished and demo'd their homes. One is better off to wait for demotion to start again... there will be a day when many houses go poof and the number of people at each house will be considerably less. The prime plots will have quite a few but the less desirable locations should be a relatively easier mark to get a house. The goal should be to get a house, any house, and relocate later to a better location when the occasion arises.

Perhaps we'll get some news about auto demolition on the 22nd with the live letter.

The other option is to wait patiently for Ishgard and the new wards there. I suspect we'll get additional wards in all areas when Ishgard goes live. One has to hope that the FC first preference will be very short or removed altogether when that happens. Even when Ishgard opens I would suggest one grabs a plot quickly then looks for a better location where you can immediately transfer the house you just bought.