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  1. #1491
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    tbh it seems the people who hate rng the most are SE rather than elitists. I'm not going to be surprised if they remove crits or dhits.

    -despite acknowledging people wanting randomness we never get any fights that have actual randomness. At most its "mechanic A, mechanic B/C, mechanic D, Mechanic B/C" or alternatively "markers on dps, different markers on non dps" nor do we get fights where the enemies have their own cooldowns on attacks like twintania and alex primes cleave
    -crit damage from enemies was remove outside deep dungeon
    -they removed kaiten for "variance"
    -they introduced rng mitigation to ast cards
    -more abilities are now auto crit and they would have done more were it not for the backlash
    -2 minute fight design

    With regards to changes mid expansion, they should absolutely do changes more often and with actual consistency. Why did it take till EW for whm to get actual weaving on their basic attack for example when Astro got theirs changed mid expansion in SB
    FFXIV doesn't have many people dedicated for job design. I know there was a very good post a while ago that compared the number of people dedicated to that for FFXIV in comparison to a number of other MMOs, and FFXIV was quite low, and that was before a number of jobs were added.

    Also- I would hope that FFXIV's job designers had nothing to do with FFXVI, because or any upcoming joint event because I expect that wouldn't have helped their workload in FFXIV.
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  2. #1492
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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Of course there’d be the misinformed people who watch like a hawk for healers to make mistakes, ‘why aren’t you using Aero III you Sylphie’, ‘you slipped Miasma at 4 instead of the moment it hits 0, you deserve the Tonberry Plague’ etc. But all they’d be doing is showing their own ignorance of the game’s mechanics, because outside of savage it wouldn’t penalise healers for not engaging with those aspects of the job.
    I still don't really understand this concern. Do these same people call out tanks and DPS for dying to mechanics? Because that's a far more obvious failure to execute one's rotation, and it comes with a significant penalty to one's damage output.


    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    People ask for changes that affect the whole Job, then insist it won't matter to "casuals" since they expect that "casuals" will just not press the buttons and be fine doing less healing/damage. While it's true some will, others won't, and may notice the difference. But we're told no one will and it will only affect the hardcore of the hardcore players and no one else.
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Didn't you know, if the healer chooses to use the 320p Glare instead of the 350p Water, then the party won't have enough damage and will hit enrage, because the WHM lost 120p per minute /s
    Yes, 120p per minute lost is the reason my damage is so low. It's definitely not my 84% GCD uptime. /s

    There is a serious point to be made here, though. Unless you're collecting spreadsheets and getting them analyzed, you have no real idea in this game what your damage is and why it's not as high as it could be. These "casuals" who are worried about "doing less healing/damage" might find that there are more profitable things to work on than worrying about some "complex" rotation.
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    Last edited by AmiableApkallu; 09-05-2023 at 11:47 PM. Reason: hit post before I finished the last paragraph

  3. #1493
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    FFXIV doesn't have many people dedicated for job design. I know there was a very good post a while ago that compared the number of people dedicated to that for FFXIV in comparison to a number of other MMOs, and FFXIV was quite low, and that was before a number of jobs were added.
    Iirc according to the credits it was 4 people and maybe an intern...for 19 jobs (not counting DoL/DoH and BLU).
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  4. #1494
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Iirc according to the credits it was 4 people and maybe an intern...for 19 jobs (not counting DoL/DoH and BLU).
    And no healer main in that group. Don’t forget the healer that became a decent player was kicked out of the dungeon test group because he was doing too much dmg and maybe even said plain walker feels like shit.
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  5. #1495
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    And no healer main in that group. Don’t forget the healer that became a decent player was kicked out of the dungeon test group because he was doing too much dmg and maybe even said plain walker feels like shit.
    Sry autocorrect the last sentence was “and maybe even said playing healer feels like shit”
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  6. #1496
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    I mean, I don't think one needs to main healer to notice that unless nobody else in the party knows what they're doing, you're practically dead weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  7. #1497
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    Sry autocorrect the last sentence was “and maybe even said playing healer feels like shit”
    Offtopic: you can edit your posts, just fyi
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

  8. #1498
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Offtopic: you can edit your posts, just fyi
    On the other hand though, doubleposting to say 'sorry typo' is pretty 'powerful energy' when we have a daily post limit
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  9. #1499
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    Grimahed Darkovin
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Offtopic: you can edit your posts, just fyi
    isn't it still impossible to edit on mobile? They did mention it was autocorrect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    isn't it still impossible to edit on mobile? They did mention it was autocorrect
    Oh yeah maybe. When i am on mobile i click the "Desktopversion" thing because this forum is that horrible on mobile
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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