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    Couldn't really find a better thread so asking here.

    There's already posts in the JP forums asking to either make E. Dyskrasia and E. Dosis' dots overwrite eachother or make E. Dyskrasia dps neutral or a loss compared to Dosis with a decent number of upvotes, so I'm wondering how this side of the community sees it.

    I'd personally be okay-ish with it being neutral since it'd function as a mobility tool on a 30s cd that way, but not anything beyond that. I'm especially against them overwriting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurarok View Post
    Couldn't really find a better thread so asking here.

    There's already posts in the JP forums asking to either make E. Dyskrasia and E. Dosis' dots overwrite eachother or make E. Dyskrasia dps neutral or a loss compared to Dosis with a decent number of upvotes, so I'm wondering how this side of the community sees it.

    I'd personally be okay-ish with it being neutral since it'd function as a mobility tool on a 30s cd that way, but not anything beyond that. I'm especially against them overwriting.
    They have 3 other healers if they don't like what SGE is doing. I find the way the JP forums wants healers to be is antithetical to how the game is designed anyway and SGE still isn't going far enough.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now
    I'd just like to point out that healers have at least gotten a hefty visual upgrade to their main damage nuke every expansion to this point.

    They didn't even do that this time.

    I happened to really like "Glare", but glare III was an eyesore that obliterated its own missile effects in its own bloom.

    I wrote it off and said "i'll wait for 7.0, it's not like I will like every visual, right?"
    Now 7.0 is dropping and after watching the same nuke go off every gcd for 3 years I get to watch it go off for another 3.

    I know this seems petty, but it's the visual equivalent of eating archon loaf as your only meal for 6 years. (but even if you consider Endwalker's visuals to be "chocolate ice cream", eating nothing but that for 3 years will make you crave brussels sprouts)
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    Last edited by plasmacutter; 06-20-2024 at 05:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plasmacutter View Post
    I'd just like to point out that healers have at least gotten a hefty visual upgrade to their main damage nuke every expansion to this point.

    They didn't even do that this time.

    I happened to really like "Glare", but glare III was an eyesore that obliterated its own missile effects in its own bloom.

    I wrote it off and said "i'll wait for 7.0, it's not like I will like every visual, right?"
    Now 7.0 is dropping and after watching the same nuke go off every gcd for 3 years I get to watch it go off for another 3.

    I know this seems petty, but it's the visual equivalent of eating archon loaf as your only meal for 6 years. (but even if you consider Endwalker's visuals to be "chocolate ice cream", eating nothing but that for 3 years will make you crave brussels sprouts)
    Can you be grateful please, you get to see glare IV 3 times every 120 seconds for a fresh animation to go with your hundreds of glare III spam, it's fine

    /s
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    They have 3 other healers if they don't like what SGE is doing. I find the way the JP forums wants healers to be is antithetical to how the game is designed anyway and SGE still isn't going far enough.
    It would probably help if both sides would work together and not argue for opposing directions. What we have in common is dissatisfaction about how it is currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    It would probably help if both sides would work together and not argue for opposing directions. What we have in common is dissatisfaction about how it is currently.
    JP has a different idea of how healers should work then most westerners. They want it to be healing only focused while most people in the west want a balance between healing and dps with unique dps mechanics like how western MMOs have been handling healers for the most part.
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    JP has a different idea of how healers should work then most westerners. They want it to be healing only focused while most people in the west want a balance between healing and dps with unique dps mechanics like how western MMOs have been handling healers for the most part.
    Unless Square actually decides to make damage that needs to be healed there's not much reason to just stand there and look pretty, especially if nothing is happening. Doubly so in casual content.

    Dungeon boss AI is too slow. It's basically 3 autos then one mechanic, repeat. The mechanics themselves can stay simple but they come at us far too slow (or the cast times are just too long).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    JP has a different idea of how healers should work then most westerners. They want it to be healing only focused while most people in the west want a balance between healing and dps with unique dps mechanics like how western MMOs have been handling healers for the most part.
    I am aware and i am not opposed to that either. Im not that interrested in DPS myself, i just want fun mechanics back for example the diverse effects on the Astro Cards.
    Options to support the team further would also fit in the Healer category and i dont mean extra minigation.
    But diverse buffings option got pruned a long time ago.

    Believe me i would like to support new Players with some nice buffs but best i can do is give them a High level shield if they are in danger
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