A summary of healer issues

[IDontPetLalas]

My issue with SGE has never been that it's not good enough, it's that if I wanted to play SCH, I'd play SCH. I've known how to play SCH for years, and SCH has been awesome for years.

I don't like it as much since ShB (that's the first time I stopped regularly playing it), but in EW they screwed with all the healers enough that they all feel bad compared to what they used to be like, so I just default to the classic standard usually.

SGE needs its own identity in gameplay, because aesthetics and lore are only skin deep, especially how readily they toss those if balance calls for it.

Even its mobility is silly now because almost everything it does has a ridiculous 30y range. WHM, SCH and AST got silly ground-targeted AoE range buffs, but SGE is *new* so they didn't want to give it one of those actions (despite their targeting/execution drastically easing in EW). As a result, they just made SGE have the ridiculous range instead.

Because these changes aren't tied to traits and level ranges, they have a huge impact on the legacy content of the game: Solo healing the current Unreal feels far easier than it should be (how it felt min ilvl when current), partially because range isn't a consideration anymore.

I don't see the whole "Sage is full of 30y range " issue but (for example)- Scholar isn't. They both have approximately the same amount from what I see - SCH has DT, Adlo, Sacred Soli, Protraction, Lustrate, Excog- at least. if anything, on Sage you needed to be in melee range for some heals initially but they expanded the range.

For Scholar. it may have had adjustments since it first came out I don't recall it wouldn't surprise as Forsaken said they've been expanding ranges, look at how big the bubble is for AST currently, it's a bit ridiculous, far be it that we think about placing it.

[ForsakenRoe]

I don't see the whole "Sage is full of 30y range " issue but (for example)- Scholar isn't. They both have approximately the same amount from what I see - SCH has DT, Adlo, Sacred Soli, Protraction, Lustrate, Excog- at least. if anything, on Sage you needed to be in melee range for some heals initially but they expanded the range.

For Scholar. it may have had adjustments since it first came out I don't recall it wouldn't surprise as Forsaken said they've been expanding ranges

In terms of 'number of mitigations available', they're pretty close after they gave SGE's Holos a shield (since it was behind on mit in DSR and it was apparently an issue there), but the point is moreso 'number of mitigations that are applicable to situation X in old content'. SCH having Soil is cool and all, but in terms of 'how does this affect SCH for Dragoon Dives' it brings its own issues because it's not got as large a radius as to cover both sides of the mechanic (north and south dive spots), either you have your marked party members be in slightly, which increases the proximity damage (and negates the benefit of the Soil), or you drop it on only one side and cover only 2/3 of the dives. Meanwhile, SGE can Kera and hit the next instance over because it's got a 30y radius. When I tried SCH in Thordan Unreal for the heck of it, I had to actually think about what I was going to use, where, because of the range issues. As SGE I put a lot less thought into things, because it almost felt like a case of 'there are no wrong answers' with how every mit had such big coverage. What does it matter if I press Holos instead of Kera, they're both gonna hit everyone anyway

The funny one is Temperance though. You think the 20y radius on Star was big, Temperance is out there at FIFTY