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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    It's not really alarmist, SE has been known to overcorrect. See the buff war between BRD and MCH in HW, also see how RPR was ahead on EW release and then they buffed every other melee and left RPR in the trash pile for quite a while.

    I'm just warning that too many people saying "SGE is way better than SCH" may be harmful to SGE in the long run if they decide to overcorrect on buffing SCH.
    You misunderstand. I'm saying that there are the recent posts stating that SGE is far better that SCH are not indicative of large numbers of people thinking that it is so.

    We can all think of cases in every game where a job or class has been adjusted and then has needed to be corrected again. I don't want to induce some paranoia because people are going to fear that their favourite job is going to get nerfed because of their comments, I wouldn't expect that any design team with any maturity would take comments at face value. They have should have metrics in addition to empirical evidence.
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    We can all think of cases in every game where a job or class has been adjusted and then has needed to be corrected again. I don't want to induce some paranoia because people are going to fear that their favourite job is going to get nerfed because of their comments, I wouldn't expect that any design team with any maturity would take comments at face value. They have should have metrics in addition to empirical evidence.
    To be fair, we don't actually know what SE balances on, they have made decisions sometimes that leaves the majority of the community confused, I do think that people should be more careful with their words because we have no idea what SE will act on. Also, they've stated that they don't want to nerf jobs if possible, so if they take the "SGE>SCH" claims at face value, they'll just boost SCH and introduce powercreep, that's a very concerning prospect.

    I'm not stating that SGE being buffed is a bad thing, it's obviously something they needed to do for it to be comparable. I'm just saying to be cautious when condemning another job and elevating your own, this could lead to unintended consequences.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Sometimes I wonder if SE know what they balance on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if SE know what they balance on
    Playrate? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Playrate? Lol
    Considering the most played in the roles are WAR, WHM, DNC, SMN and RPR it seems like even if they if did balance around play rate they can’t seem to figure out if they should be the weakest or the strongest considering all 5 are either the weakest or the strongest in their respective role over the course of this expansion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Considering the most played in the roles are WAR, WHM, DNC, SMN and RPR it seems like even if they if did balance around play rate they can’t seem to figure out if they should be the weakest or the strongest considering all 5 are either the weakest or the strongest in their respective role over the course of this expansion
    It's kind of sad when you think about it, job design is now so close to each other that every job has certain parts that feel the same yet they can't even get a proper balance going.
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