Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
If the tank's griefing the party by sprinting ahead far in advance AND using a gapcloser
I...don't think we have the same definition of the word griefing.

I usually have JUST enough time to DoT all 4(ish) of the mobs of the initial pack and MAYBE have time to DoT one of the mobs from the second pack as I catch up. So it's not like the party is losing out on some incredible amount of damage this way. And since it allows the Tanks to more quickly gather all the mobs into one spot for stationary AOEs to be placed, I don't see that as griefing at all. Most would call it efficient, and the time difference between that and them letting the healer run with them to do tick AOE damage (which WHM can't even do and AST is limited by Lightspeed once per every other pack) would hardly be anything. Even if you're right that it's a smidge more potency damage, the difference MIGHT be 3-5 seconds or one GCD faster. "griefing" that isn't.

Moreover, this happens with almost every run I do. "massively unlucky"? It seems to be the norm.

And this kind of comment, btw, is the min-maxy BS that ruins games. "You're losing 70 potency once every AOE pack that might be HALF a GCD slower killing the pack! That's griefing/bad gameplay!!" Really? I...don't think it is.

Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
They didn't. They just said they were ready to Bio-Deploy, only to be reminded that they can't do that in PvE.
Such =/= "I Bio spammed when I could and should have been using Art of War II."
Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
... So I applied the DoT to each mob and then spammed Art of War until everything died.
...so he literally said he did the same thing I did. Applied to the DoT to each mob (while catching up to the Tank, presumably), then spammed Art until everything died once caught up. That's LITERALLY the same thing I said. Either you don't/didn't read it, or as I accuse, you want to find things to attack me for while you give a pass to people who aren't me for saying/doing the same thing.

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As for all the talk of god DRK's using perfectly timed LDs:

You guys don't run random ques solo much, do you? Because that isn't the common experience as far as I can tell.