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    Banriikku's Avatar
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    I think Support is the role but healer the name. We keep the healers as they are and we get an Enocunter Design change so that healing to that exten is needed or a more support role BUT this would also need a encounter design change first.
    All encounter are build around DPS and low utility. If you are adding utility in form of a supporter the encounter would break. I dont say "no to supporter in FF14" but SE needs to aknowledge that the enocunter design is failed and needs a rework that first or all healer changes will be for naught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    When I saw that we were going from Broil III at 290 potency in ShB to Broil IV at 295 potency in EW, I was shaking with how excited I was. I couldn't believe they were so generous with a whole 5 potency. I'm going to probably scream in excitement when 7.0 comes out and Broil V hits 300 potency, playing SCH going to be WILD once it hits 300!!!

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    Noah Orih
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    This is an argument of semantics, and one that is arbitrary. A “healer” is any “support” that restores HP. “Support” characters/classes have low overall damage in exchange for brining utility—non-damage related effects that make encounters easier: healing, mitigation, crowd control, mobility, cleansing, dispelling…

    The only difference it would make if the role was labeled “support” is that we might’ve seen it also include jobs like bard, dancer, and red mage, and those jobs might’ve offered more support than just increased healing effects and a cleanse on bard, a little extra healing on dancer, and increased healing/mitigation and instant raises on red mage.
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    Semantic ? No, i try to make the diffrence clear:
    Healer is healing focused and DPS is an afterthought
    Support is supporting and DPS is an important part of the kit

    And as i stated earlier, the encounter design ist the problem or the job design. A question that gets one of two answers depending of your viewpoint:
    1. The Job needs more in line with the encounter, therfore more DPS and utility
    or
    2. The encounter Design needs to change to make "full heal " work

    Also we dont talk here about DPS with support option, we talk about healers and how SE could change them for the better. Sure we can look what is possible but to take away from other jobs.. i dont think that is necessary, not after SE tries to strip everything away from all jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    When I saw that we were going from Broil III at 290 potency in ShB to Broil IV at 295 potency in EW, I was shaking with how excited I was. I couldn't believe they were so generous with a whole 5 potency. I'm going to probably scream in excitement when 7.0 comes out and Broil V hits 300 potency, playing SCH going to be WILD once it hits 300!!!