A summary of healer issues

[Renathras]

Right right, but that isn't the point:

I was only asking about the DPS rotation.

Then was going to ask specifically WHY. Alongside the thread where I'm looking at rotations, I'm trying to decide how much IS and IS NOT enough.

People here constantly praise SB's design, and when I point out EW WHM actually has a more engaging overall DPS "rotation", get met with derision. But I want to see what exactly that is. Saying ShB and EW suck and SB is better must mean just that or it has no meaning. If people mean SB was better...but just for SCH, then that's a pretty different argument, and calls for a different solution. And note that the praise for HW is often even higher for regulars here.

I also disagree that just because other Jobs have changed means every one should. For all the talk of how Healers were in ARR, most Jobs were different in ARR. Modern NIN is pretty unrecognizable, for example, and post-6.3 PLD is actually closer to ARR PLD than pre-6.3 PLD was. Does every Job really need 25 DPS buttons and at least three Job gauges? I should hope not, because that's why I actually hate most Melee Jobs.

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EDIT:

You seem to believe this is an objective fact and everyone should see the data the same way, but it's not an objective fact. People find engagement in different things. Some people will find EW WHM more engaging, but personally, I don't find a 30s singular DoT and wasting a healing resource every 20s just so I can get a damage neutral hit every minute to be engaging in the slightest. I found SB more engaging with the shorter DoT timers and being required to manage them.

I suppose it depends on what one takes as "more engaging", which is subjective.

What isn't and is objective is that EW WHM has more non-Glare GCDs per minute than SB WHM had non-Stone GCDs per minute. It is objectively factual that SB WHM, in a situation where minimal healing was required, had less non-Stone casts per minute/had more nukespam than EW WHM does. Though the difference is slight, it's there and objectively true.

I do agree people find enjoyment in different things, but it's in vogue around here to insist that doesn't matter.

[Aravell]

and when I point out EW WHM actually has a more engaging overall DPS "rotation"

You seem to believe this is an objective fact and everyone should see the data the same way, but it's not an objective fact. People find engagement in different things. Some people will find EW WHM more engaging, but personally, I don't find a 30s singular DoT and wasting a healing resource every 20s just so I can get a damage neutral hit every minute to be engaging in the slightest. I found SB more engaging with the shorter DoT timers and being required to manage them.