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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    I also think removing Selene entirely was not great, but we have to consider, it was 'Selene vs Roused Whispering Dawn', the odds were so stacked against Selene's kit it'd have to be some real impactful stuff to compete with how good Eos was. And that'd just mean making SCH even more dominant than it already was
    What you could do to keep things simple and balanced...

    - Fey Illumination is removed.
    - Whispering Dawn upgrades to Fey Blessing. Fey Blessing's regen potency is increased, and with Eos, increases HP restored via healing actions by 10%, and Selene decreases damage taken by 10%. Seraph applies both effects with Angel's Whisper.
    - Add a new action that changes based on your current pet, something like "Dawn and Dusk". With Eos, you get a 500 potency AoE heal that converts any HP overheal into a barrier. With Selene, you get Expedient.
    - Summon Eos and Summon Selene remain as separate GCD spells, and Dissipation swaps your current faerie for the opposite faerie as an OGCD cooldown.

    Eos allows Scholar to fulfill burst healing needs while Selene gives you more mitigation and utility that is particularly helpful in Savage, meaning there's more choice involved in who you take, but you have some flexibility in swapping faeries mid combat. The cooldown across both Fey Blessings and Expedient vs the new Eos action are shared, so you can't double dip, but you could use Selene for one part of a fight while swapping to Eos for another.

    This isn't a major change, isn't doing anything "sacrilegious" to Scholar, and accomplishes something a lot of people want to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    This isn't a major change, isn't doing anything "sacrilegious" to Scholar, and accomplishes something a lot of people want to see.
    If they could have done this, they'd wouldn't have axed the Sects from AST, I think. It'd be good to see in a world where we don't have to pretend like the Pure/Barrier Split 'maybe works possibly', but we've got to go through the motions of SE licking their finger, sticking it in the air to see which way the winds blow, and realizing 'oh actually it's not working maybe we should try something else'

    Ahh who am I kidding, if they saw the failure of 4.0 WHM and the 'Pure Healing' model it was designed to use and thought the solution was 'make every healer do that', they'll definitely doubledown on the split we have now. Probably by taking away the regen from SCH's Soil, Whispering Dawn, and making Indom a 120s CD
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    If they could have done this, they'd wouldn't have axed the Sects from AST, I think. It'd be good to see in a world where we don't have to pretend like the Pure/Barrier Split 'maybe works possibly', but we've got to go through the motions of SE licking their finger, sticking it in the air to see which way the winds blow, and realizing 'oh actually it's not working maybe we should try something else'

    Ahh who am I kidding, if they saw the failure of 4.0 WHM and the 'Pure Healing' model it was designed to use and thought the solution was 'make every healer do that', they'll definitely doubledown on the split we have now. Probably by taking away the regen from SCH's Soil, Whispering Dawn, and making Indom a 120s CD
    I mean, Pneuma exists, so having a long CD burst heal on SCH is nothing out of the current pattern. If the Eos option were to share a cooldown with Expedient it would have the same restrictions as Pneuma as well. It's actually weaker than Pneuma, cannot be boosted by Zoe, and would stem from your pet rather than you, so not actually 500 potency as if it were coming from the SCH, so I can't imagine that's "against the rules," but then again, fun is "against the rules" so...
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