A summary of healer issues

[ForsakenRoe]

New Q&A, new healer question opportunity.

I'm tempted to ask in the plainest terms

I'd ask them this:

'A question was previously asked at one of these Q+As, about the state of healers in the wake of the news that EX roulettes were being cleared without healers, or that tanks had soloed Normal modes of the current raid. After having over half of the question lost in translation, including the pertinent examples of how bad the state of healers currently is, Yoshida responded with something to the effect of 'If you're looking for a challenge as a healer, go try Ultimate'. Given that every Ultimate released so far, including both DSR (the Ultimate the 'go try ult' comment was pointing towards players trying) and the new TOP, have also both been solo healed, I was wondering:

Does Yoshida stand by the statement 'go try Ultimate' that has been very negatively received as 'tonedeaf' by large portions of the healer community? Or is the dev team going to look, as a priority change for 7.0, at ways to change the healer role and it's place in the game, as I and many other long-time healers are becoming very disheartened at the direction of the role and fearful for the future of the role's engagement, or lack thereof'

Also if you want, throw in 'I remember seeing the interview with Asmongold where Yoshida jokingly asked 'do these devs (referring to Blizzard) even play their own game?' Considering the state of healing in FFXIV right now, I have to wonder: Do you, Yoshida?'

[ty_taurus]

New Q&A, new healer question opportunity.

I'm tempted to ask in the plainest terms
"Can healers get more damage spells and astrologian cards returned to the stormblood version as a priority please?"

naturally this might not fly given the topic so second version of the question
"In all the healer job quests from A realm reborn to Endwalker Healers are taught to use damage spells and healing spells in both gameplay and lore. However shadowbringers removed too many damage spells and astrologian cards which were also tied to lore. Can these be returned as a priority?


I could always ask both I suppose

I posted a question of my own on page 17. Here's the link

This was the question I posted:

Throughout Endwalker, the healer role continues to receive heavy criticism by many dedicated healer players who are dissatisfied with all of the healers. More and more healer players are leaving the role as a result of the direction of healer design since the beginning of Shadowbringers. These issues can be best summarized into two main issues:

1. There isn't enough damage to warrant the vast selection of potent healing actions each healer has access to in normal, non-savage content. There are many really cool or interesting healing abilities that often are ignored in normal content because they're too excessive for the content.
2. Healers are not fun to play when no one needs healing, which ends up being most of the time. Even in savage content, once a fight is learned, a skilled healer often needs to heal less as the party makes less mistakes and they learn to manage their cooldowns better. The reward for this is more time to spend on unfun DPS.

My Question:

What many of us want is for healers to always be fun, not just fun in savage or ultimate by expanding on DPS tools and/or other supportive tools that are always engaging regardless of whether or not the party needs healing. Additionally, since FFXIV is becoming more and more friendly toward a single-player experience, ensuring the healers promote a fun gameplay experience for solo players is also very important. Are there any plans to address these concerns in the upcoming expansion?

If anyone wants to pop over and upvote, or ask the question differently if you aren't a fan of how I worded it, I would love to try and make sure there's always a healer question being asked to continue to bring awareness to these things.

[Recon1o6]

I posted a question of my own on page 17. Here's the link

This was the question I posted:



If anyone wants to pop over and upvote, or ask the question differently if you aren't a fan of how I worded it, I would love to try and make sure there's always a healer question being asked to continue to bring awareness to these things.

I thinkt he problem with that and forsaken roe's is that we run the risk of the them not being translated correctly like my question was with the length

[Recon1o6]

Update, added my first question here
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...3-Panel/page17

[ForsakenRoe]

Aight we all know what we gotta do

Everyone's gotta ask the same main point in their question (what are the plans on making healers more fun), but reword it slightly so it's not a copypaste response

Then likespam every healer related question so at least one gets picked up

edit: oh they ask you to keep it on topic about the 'next 10 years' or congratulating them for the 10 years so far and your experiences in those previous 10 years

so word the question as like, 'healer playerbase has been dropping over time, how do you plan to keep healers interesting in the next 10 years, because this current trend isn't working' i guess

[Renathras]

Iunno, I posted two questions. I'm sure my post won't get any likes, either. The only posts that get likes and support are within the first 2-3 pages, no matter the content. I'm sure the questions that will get tons of likes and thus actualy be asked will be stuff like "When will you be increasing the size of the Glamour Chest?" and "Will we be getting new housing wards?"

EDIT: Not that any of you would promote it, but here's mine:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6201733

EDIT 2: Made a second post trying to make it shorter - no edit button is murder: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6201781

Though...yeah, first page is about BLU, Housing, and graphic update character creator (really?)

/sigh

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Okay, but this one made me laugh: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6201045

[IDontPetLalas]

Iunno, I posted two questions. I'm sure my post won't get any likes, either. The only posts that get likes and support are within the first 2-3 pages, no matter the content. I'm sure the questions that will get tons of likes and thus actualy be asked will be stuff like "When will you be increasing the size of the Glamour Chest?" and "Will we be getting new housing wards?"

EDIT: Not that any of you would promote it, but here's mine:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6201733

You happened to make the choice of of posing unrelated 2 topics in the same question- perhaps inadvertently, or perhaps not. We'll see how that works out - as for myself, if I don't agree with both then I wouldn't promote your question.

[Renathras]

You happened to make the choice of of posing unrelated 2 topics in the same question- perhaps inadvertently, or perhaps not. We'll see how that works out - as for myself, if I don't agree with both then I wouldn't promote your question.

Well, I also posted just the one later.

But yeah, bold move, Cotton, we'll see how it works out. I fully suspect they'll only look at the first 2-3 pages of questions, which are all about Housing, Glam, and BLU. Because of course they are.

You don't have to agree with them - or promote them - though I feel if you had the choice of my first question or nothing, you'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face to reject it. /shrug But I'm not the boss of you, so do what you feel best. I only asked the questions that I personally think are the most important to the health of the game to me right now - Healers being identical as a bad thing and the 2 min meta as a bad thing - and wondering if the Dev team has had thoughts of changing one or both of those things. /shrug

[IDontPetLalas]

Well, I also posted just the one later.

But yeah, bold move, Cotton, we'll see how it works out. I fully suspect they'll only look at the first 2-3 pages of questions, which are all about Housing, Glam, and BLU. Because of course they are.

You don't have to agree with them - or promote them - though I feel if you had the choice of my first question or nothing, you'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face to reject it. /shrug But I'm not the boss of you, so do what you feel best. I only asked the questions that I personally think are the most important to the health of the game to me right now - Healers being identical as a bad thing and the 2 min meta as a bad thing - and wondering if the Dev team has had thoughts of changing one or both of those things. /shrug

That's rather an odd position given that generally only a limited number of questions are selected, I generally promote questions that are well formulated rather than those that are either at risk of being poorly translated as well as those that could possibly/probably lead to undesirable outcomes. However, as you say, to each their own.

[Renathras]

I doubt they only let a person Like a post once and don't count otherwise. Were I you (I'm not, of course), I'd Like all the Healer related questions just so they are more likely to at least acknowledge it, since there's no limitation on how many you may promote. The only reason not to is if you'd rather them not even consider the option, to the point you'd rather risk them not considering Healers at all. An odd position to me, but we're different people. Moreover, I was just saying that was my post and that I didn't suspect it would have much support. It wasn't a secret reverse psychology attempt to get any.