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    Quote Originally Posted by Beddict View Post
    How it feels when Yoshi-P says his team is looking at another Job he deems "too busy/complicated" or whatever other bullshit excuse comes to mind at the time:

    Surely Ast should be on the second door instead?

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    I agree with that but I couldn't work out where to put it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    The updated OP from a few days ago is extremely well written and a significant improvement. I wish that it was presented in a fresh thread, such that the new upvotes would get the revision translated. As it stands it's easily missed.
    Thanks. Though I admit I'm a bit unsure whether to put it in a new thread or not. On one hand new upvotes, on the other there's a not insignificant chance it won't get as much traction due to the massive volume of healer problems atm and given how many healers quit in EW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Pardon me but wheres the door for Summoner?
    It could definitely go on there, yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Surely Ast should be on the second door instead?
    Yeah, it could be there for the loss of the old Cards. Could chuck WHM on the EW door a second time as well since the devs apparently forgot the Job existed at the start of the expac, BRD on the ShB door for when it's support kit got gutted going into ShB, MCH could probably go on every door, SMN for the rework that made the Job braindead. Wouldn't be able to see the damn doors if I chucked everything that's happened over the years on there so I opted to keep things simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beddict View Post
    Yeah, it could be there for the loss of the old Cards. Could chuck WHM on the EW door a second time as well since the devs apparently forgot the Job existed at the start of the expac, BRD on the ShB door for when it's support kit got gutted going into ShB, MCH could probably go on every door, SMN for the rework that made the Job braindead. Wouldn't be able to see the damn doors if I chucked everything that's happened over the years on there so I opted to keep things simple.
    Heres one I made just for Ast that I posted in the Ast adjustments thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Heres one I made just for Ast that I posted in the Ast adjustments thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Thanks. Though I admit I'm a bit unsure whether to put it in a new thread or not. On one hand new upvotes, on the other there's a not insignificant chance it won't get as much traction due to the massive volume of healer problems atm and given how many healers quit in EW
    I think that your reworked post absolutely deserves a new thread. The real question is when to do it.

    Have a think about what changes can be practically resolved in the short term (i.e. in a major patch) vs. what can be resolved in the longer term (i.e. next expansion). Perhaps put your ideas out at /r/ffxivdiscussion and ask for feedback before you formulate the final version - I don't think I've seen a solid discussion on healer direction in the past few months at least. Ideally, a thread like this needs to build momentum during the lead in to a Q+A Live Letter, because then the issue becomes very topical. If you're considering taking a break, then perhaps liase with one of the regulars here to see if they can spearhead it. But I do think it's a worthwhile cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    I think that your reworked post absolutely deserves a new thread. The real question is when to do it.

    Have a think about what changes can be practically resolved in the short term (i.e. in a major patch) vs. what can be resolved in the longer term (i.e. next expansion). Perhaps put your ideas out at /r/ffxivdiscussion and ask for feedback before you formulate the final version - I don't think I've seen a solid discussion on healer direction in the past few months at least. Ideally, a thread like this needs to build momentum during the lead in to a Q+A Live Letter, because then the issue becomes very topical. If you're considering taking a break, then perhaps liase with one of the regulars here to see if they can spearhead it. But I do think it's a worthwhile cause.
    My sub and as far as im aware my allowance for using this forum ends in 2 days.

    I might be cynical but I really don't see much point sticking it on reddit tbh since they downvote any criticism to oblivion. I posted my original question from the q&a there and it was downvoted to bits

    Anyone else is welcome to do so however if they think they can get btter luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    My sub and as far as im aware my allowance for using this forum ends in 2 days.

    I might be cynical but I really don't see much point sticking it on reddit tbh since they downvote any criticism to oblivion. I posted my original question from the q&a there and it was downvoted to bits

    Anyone else is welcome to do so however if they think they can get btter luck
    Your ability to use the forum lasts a bit longer than your sub, I was unsubbed and I could still use it for about 2 weeks IIRC last time
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