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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Don't worry about toning down the bloat, almost all of them were good points that where relevant when they were written. Hell most of them still are. If the devs didn't see this thread when it was posted they're probably not going to now anyway.
    There's a few ways the Devs could reduce Button Bloat on Healers.

    Merging Aqua Veil and Divine Benison into 1 button
    Merging the Cure 1 equivalent on all jobs with their Cure 2 equivalent OR merging Cure 1 with Esuna.
    Giving WHM a Eukrasia equivalent skill so that it can be used to merge Afflatus spells with their corresponding skill (Solace=Cure 2, Rapture=Medica, Misery=Holy)

    That alone removes 4 buttons off the bar instantly, and allows for the creation of more Afflatus Spells since they no longer contribute to button bloat. People will complain about Homogeny because Eukrasia is supposed to be SGE's gimmick but since healers already share 80% of their toolkits between each other, I don't really see it as much of an argument if 2 healers share a little more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    There's a few ways the Devs could reduce Button Bloat on Healers.

    Merging Aqua Veil and Divine Benison into 1 button
    Merging the Cure 1 equivalent on all jobs with their Cure 2 equivalent OR merging Cure 1 with Esuna.
    Giving WHM a Eukrasia equivalent skill so that it can be used to merge Afflatus spells with their corresponding skill (Solace=Cure 2, Rapture=Medica, Misery=Holy)

    That alone removes 4 buttons off the bar instantly, and allows for the creation of more Afflatus Spells since they no longer contribute to button bloat. People will complain about Homogeny because Eukrasia is supposed to be SGE's gimmick but since healers already share 80% of their toolkits between each other, I don't really see it as much of an argument if 2 healers share a little more.
    I think by bloat Recon was talking about the OP, pretty wordy but it needs to be honestly for non devs who come looking at the thread and might not understand the veteran healer Point of View.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I think by bloat Recon was talking about the OP, pretty wordy but it needs to be honestly for non devs who come looking at the thread and might not understand the veteran healer Point of View.
    My mistake.
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