A summary of healer issues

[Recon1o6]

You speak for high end players, theorycrafters, people ruled by parses/FFLogs, and those that follow what the above players tell them to think.

I absolutely do not speak for solely these groups like you insinuate
-I hate parsers, I hate parsing players
-I also dislike players that after 80 levels do not perform the bare minimum of their jobs, whether that's tanks using mitigation on a tankbuster, or samurai's freestyling and not using combos, or healers that don't contribute during the shocking amount of time where they don't need to heal.
All that stuff you get taught in your class quests and the hall of the novice. You know, those tutorials.
-I especially don't like arrogant forum users that are rude without providing evidence of their points to further the discussion instead of having a thread descend into bickering

I wrote that post using feedback gathered from healer forums, in game, reddit and various discords. I tried to cover as many people as possible when constructing the post. Is it perfect? of course not, that's fundamentally impossible. I don't claim to voice everyone's concerns, only as many as I could.

The vast majority of the player base disagrees with you. Even your aesthetic choices are subjective and not agreed on. For example, I hated WHM being a Geomancer. It was stupid. White Mages don't traditionally have anything to do with nature magics, that's generally BLMs or Blue Mage/Enemy Skill mages. I much prefer WHM getting back to Light Magic and dumping the nature stuff.

You cannot claim that the majority of the playerbase disagrees with me, conversely I have not claimed to speak for everyone.
What you can see is that this forum, reddit, twitter etc are flooded with various complaints about healers. Because a lot of people aren't satisfied.
On your elements point, here you go, a thread about whm flavour containing posts that want our conjury back. Which the WHM lore as you know says is an extension of conjury.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-Flavor-in-6.0

I also love having a streamlined DPS kit I can do that takes the minimal amount of concentration away from my primary duties of healing and correctly performing mechanics. I hate involved and complex rotations - if I liked those, I'd play a DPS Job. I prefer healing and supporting my party.

While your point is valid, denigrating those who have an opposing point is not.

I enjoy having something variable and fun to do when I don't need to heal like I did during the 6 years before SHB. On whm that was juggling a couple of buffs and cleric stance. On sch that was dots, bane and shadowflare. On astro that was my cards. Granted I sucked at sch so I didn't play it much.
Nobody is asking for complex rotations. We're just asking for a few buttons so that its not a miserable affair.
Look around the forum, a lot of people want more support buttons as well. WHM's especially have been asking for more utility and support actions for years. AST lost their support aspect almost completely- the cards got gutted. SCH's also lost their support buttons when they could silence and slow.

Can you honestly claim that pressing stone and aero vs ranjit or zenos, or even when fighting a fate by yourself, or grinding in bozja for a glowy stick, or on a treasure map is fun? Because for many people of many skill levels, it is not.

Though I did agree with you on exactly one point: point 9

I'm someone who plays a female character, and I can't stand the sheer volume of feminine gear. Robe after robe after robe, coat after coat after coat.

They couldn't even leave judge drace's armour alone without making its awesome cape into a skirt for the law's order healer/caster set.

[ItMe]

They couldn't even leave judge drace's armour alone without making its awesome cape into a skirt for the law's order healer/caster set.

I found this as shocking as I did disheartening.
What a let down.

[Renathras]

Without getting into a bickering argument with you - I'll point out that my views are relatively common, yet were not in your OP. I'm not sure what echo chamber you're getting your points from, but they represent those echo chambers, not the whole community. And I wasn't trying to be mean to you, I was just pointing out the people you're speaking for are not healers as a whole and should not be represented as such, and that I personally didn't like most of your ideas, and I doubt I'm alone in that.

They couldn't even leave judge drace's armour alone without making its awesome cape into a skirt for the law's order healer/caster set.

...but this I agree with. Seriously, it's an armored corset with a skirt attached. Who thought this was a good idea? As I've noted before, all the artwork of healers are always females (with one exception I've seen of a very feminine looking Hyur male) and that's it. It's like they don't get that non-females like to support and heal. CONVERSELY, all the males are tanks...but even there, they occasionally give them dresses/skirts to mix things up.

[Deceptus]

I absolutely do not speak for solely these groups like you insinuate
-I hate parsers, I hate parsing players

Shouldn't hold hate friend, it's not healthy. Some people parse for themselves and themselves alone and never bring it up. Do you hate them as well?

[Recon1o6]

Shouldn't hold hate friend, it's not healthy. Some people parse for themselves and themselves alone and never bring it up. Do you hate them as well?

No I dont. Its the arrogant buggers that I dislike in terms of parse users. ofc im not going to get above grey parse in a dungeon when I don't have a clue on blm since I never play it and I haven't played a dungeon yet where I had enochian.

To clarify: I dislike the tools in general because they basically exclude console players, and how open to abuse they are. In addition, I dislike the amount of cheating tools that can come with it (auto callouts for example) and how it basically encourages at least in NA a parse over respecting mechanics mentality and general reliance on callouts instead of actually learning mechanics.

Nowhere was this more obvious than DRS. The caller got one thing wrong and half the raid died like lemmings against trinity seeker even though they could all see where his blaes were glowing

However, I do understand the purpose of them and can see the value when used right given there's nothing to indicate your skill as a dps otherwise. XIV analysis's is closer to what I would consider to be a fair tool. It points out stuff (dont die, try not to overcap espirit etc) that can help

[Dogempire]

No I dont. Its the arrogant buggers that I dislike in terms of parse users. ofc im not going to get above grey parse in a dungeon when I don't have a clue on blm since I never play it and I haven't played a dungeon yet where I had enochian.

To clarify: I dislike the tools in general because they basically exclude console players, and how open to abuse they are. In addition, I dislike the amount of cheating tools that can come with it (auto callouts for example) and how it basically encourages at least in NA a parse over respecting mechanics mentality and general reliance on callouts instead of actually learning mechanics.

Nowhere was this more obvious than DRS. The caller got one thing wrong and half the raid died like lemmings against trinity seeker even though they could all see where his blaes were glowing

However, I do understand the purpose of them and can see the value when used right given there's nothing to indicate your skill as a dps otherwise. XIV analysis's is closer to what I would consider to be a fair tool. It points out stuff (dont die, try not to overcap espirit etc) that can help

Tbf as long as they never design raids around needing them like WoW does and they're never officially sanctioned, then I think it's fine for them to exist

I really doubt anyone cares that you parsed a 25 in Aumarot the 2nd day after 5.0 hits, heck people don't care if you parsed a 100 on all 4 savage raids, all 3 ultimate raids, and also in Cape Westwind. Same with Ultimate titles and solo deep dungeon titles, and the people that do care are generally crappy people who don't have anything else going for them other than a pink number next to their name in a raid that'll be obsolete in a matter of months

That being said, I agree with the callout programs, but I think actual people doing it is fine because it encourages voice chat and that encourages fun shenanigans and dumb jokes that make raids nights memorable aside from "We got the clear on xx day"

[ItMe]

That being said, I agree with the callout programs, but I think actual people doing it is fine because it encourages voice chat and that encourages fun shenanigans and dumb jokes that make raids nights memorable aside from "We got the clear on xx day"

I agree wholeheartedly.
I cannot understate how much more enjoyable things are when I can laugh and joke about with my friends.
And MMO is largely a vehicle we socialize through, so those fun shenanigans really feels like the meat and popotoes of my experiences.