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    currentlemon's Avatar
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    Celica Genhu
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
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    Maybe because smashing one button on your keyboard isn't fun or compelling to a lot of players? Believe me, it's not. Even the most die hard healers who play this game and stay with their Jobs don't think Glare/Broil spamming is fun. Healing in this game isn't that hard, and adding 2 or 3 dps spells to WHM and SCH won't make them suddenly complex or a hard to learn. Learning the mechanics of the fight is what makes or breaks a healer. Going into a fight not knowing when to heal is exhilarating but once you get all the mechanics down and know exactly when to pop your heals, and coupled with the fact that you slowly out-gear the fight too, sooner or later all you will be doing is just spamming that 1 dps skill which gets dull and boring over time.

    All I get from your comments is arrogance and ignorance. It seems you don't understand why the players in these forums are upset or why everyone so critical of healer job design. Too much negativity is bad, but it doesn't change the fact that players like Deceptus, Sebazy, and Recon, who have records of clearing the most difficult fights in the game, still want FFXIV to succeed but don't like the direction that SE has made when it comes to healers.

    And for the record, Sage doesn't look that complex either. It's still mostly 1 button spam, though SE did a good job in fleshing out it's dps and healing skills to make it seem it's more interesting. I suspect that it will be a well received Job in the healer community once Endwalker comes out.
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    Last edited by currentlemon; 10-14-2021 at 10:59 AM.

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    Rosa Frandlia
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by currentlemon View Post
    Maybe because smashing one button on your keyboard isn't fun or compelling to a lot of players? Believe me, it's not. Even the most die hard healers who play this game and stay with their Jobs don't think Glare/Broil spamming is fun. Healing in this game isn't that hard, and adding 2 or 3 dps spells to WHM and SCH won't make them suddenly complex or a hard to learn. Learning the mechanics of the fight is what makes or breaks a healer. Going into a fight not knowing when to heal is exhilarating but once you get all the mechanics down and know exactly when to pop your heals, and coupled with the fact that you slowly out-gear the fight too, sooner or later all you will be doing is just spamming that 1 dps skill which gets dull and boring over time.

    All I get from your comments is arrogance and ignorance. It seems you don't understand why the players in these forums are upset or why everyone so critical of healer job design. Too much negativity is bad, but it doesn't change the fact that players like Deceptus, Sebazy, and Recon, who have records of clearing the most difficult fights in the game, still want FFXIV to succeed but don't like the direction that SE has made when it comes to healers.

    And for the record, Sage doesn't look that complex either. It's still mostly 1 button spam, though SE did a good job in fleshing out it's dps and healing skills to make it seem it's more interesting. I suspect that it will be a well received Job in the healer community once Endwalker comes out.
    I'm not the best healer, but in a green parse Diamond EX I looked at my GCD usage. 95%+ of my GCD's were DPS as SCH with only 6 GCD heals used with over 100 DPS casts (one healing GCD at start to deploy Adlo) and had only 14% over heal. That tells me from the interviews I guess I'm supposed to switch to Sage even though I'm nowhere near top tier.
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    Last edited by Rosa_Frandlia; 10-14-2021 at 12:03 PM.

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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosa_Frandlia View Post
    I'm not the best healer, but in a green parse Diamond EX I looked at my GCD usage. 95%+ of my GCD's were DPS as SCH with only 6 GCD heals used with over 100 DPS casts (one healing GCD at start to deploy Adlo) and had only 14% over heal. That tells me from the interviews I guess I'm supposed to switch to Sage even though I'm nowhere near top tier.
    Basically yes. From how Yoshi-P explained their reasoning for the EW healer changes, or lack thereof, ANY healer that isn't a GCD heal spamming curebot, who has 90% of their attention fixated on watching Netflix, should just play Sage...or as they would probably call them: "the elite healers"


    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    When I looked the paladin toolkit (the only tank i've looked tbh) I was really surprised to see such amount of healing. Seems over-the-top to me, unless they really push the damage (which... historically we know that it doesn't usually happen). I can maybe see more 8man content being made with just one healer.
    It's not just PLD. Warrior gets even more selfheal than it currently has (and more consistent healing through Nascent Flash/Bloodwhetting in bossfights), another 1000 potency on Equilibrium in the form of a regen, a 400 potency heal on Shake it Off, 20% mitigation on their Nascent Flash replacement.

    GnB gets 2 charges of their HoT (Aurora) and ~28% mitigation for 4 seconds every 25 seconds with an added 800-850 potency heal should they drop below 50% (Heart of Corundum).

    DrK is pretty much the only tank that got the absolute shortest end of the stick, all other tanks either got a ridiculous amount of extra mitigation, selfheal or both.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 10-14-2021 at 02:10 PM.