A summary of healer issues

[Irenia]

Granado Espada

To be fair, I'd argue your "player character" in that game was your entire kit of three units you used, giving you alot of customization. It was rather neat.

Unfortunately, I never got far not deep enough to anything considered high level, so I have no idea how things performed there.

EDIT:

The closest thing to a DPS shunning healer was Ragnarok Online's Priest and its derivatives. When I played, if you wanted to heal as a Priest, you'd choose to focus on survival, cast times, or some blend of them. The cast time focused ones often dabbled in undead slaying, but since I wanted to be the healiest of healers, I went survival.

Healing in that game was really simple, keep everyone buffed, use your utility skills when needed, heal when needed, and spam heal when things got tense.

Even then, I ended up being the most engaged when I played part time tank. Even had a quasi provoke, haha. It make me realize that I needed more than just healing. While tense moments were fun, because dying cost exp and wiping wastes so much time, no one actually wanted to be tense.

In the end, the reason I latched onto FFXIV was that healers had a damage skill actually worth a damn, heh.

[Recon1o6]

So, yoshida confirmed in a question from mr happy that healers are supposed to be new to healing and we ought to feel satisfied that we are skillfull enough to be able to do damage in the first place. If we don't like it, go play sage

Mrhappy: Has the team noticed or taken any feedback on improving interactivity with healers, whether that be more interesting dps skills or increasing healing requirements

Yoshida: We understand why high skill players desire more technical aspects to dpsing when playing healer. They are able to put damage skills very often between the healing that is required. But we won't make any dramatic addition of dps skills to healers moving forward. New players shouldn't feel this immense pressure to do damage on healing jobs because we forced them to have a bunch of damage skills. they should get their exhilaration from improving how well they heal then consider if they have the time to dps

Mrhappy: he then added a reminder that sage is coming out...if a player wants a healer with a more dps focus they might enjoy sage a bit more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkyq_yUMjI&t=365s

and here's the skill lists. Consider these about 85% complete since potencies might go up and down a bit.

Whm getting a lily from holy? pfft Astro cards? nadda. Sch anything? nope.

https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...M_xmas2092.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...T_xmas2092.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...H_xmas2092.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...E_xmas2092.png

edit: look forward to next week ish sometime and I'll update the summary of healer issues. I got an exam on either the monday or wednesday

[Semirhage]

consider if they have the time to dps

consider if

consider if

My. Sides. If ever there were a producer more out of touch with his vet healer community...

[Absurdity]

Yoshida: New players shouldn't feel this immense pressure to do damage on healing jobs because we forced them to have a bunch of damage skills.

Hearing that from the people who made healing so easy that dpsing on healers is basically required now...it would be hilarious if it weren't so incredibly out of touch.

[Semirhage]

You know the solution. Someone with a lot of free time become the healer content creator you wish to see. Make charismatic, funny videos of yourself running expert roulette with your friends. Conspicuously replace your damage buttons with /yawn or /sleep or /playdead emotes, then make sure you have a party of decent players. Crank up the player volume real high, get those yawn noises loud. Video edit the heck out of your dungeon run; zoom in on the pulse pounding action every time your character raises his/her hand to their face, spin the image every time you fall over. Make a huge deal out of it every time you use Tetra, like it's the peak of excitement for you, then return to yawning. "I have no idea how I'm supposed to find time to deal damage here."

[Rika007]

Mrhappy: Has the team noticed or taken any feedback on improving interactivity with healers, whether that be more interesting dps skills or increasing healing requirements

Yoshida: We understand why high skill players desire more technical aspects to dpsing when playing healer. They are able to put damage skills very often between the healing that is required. But we won't make any dramatic addition of dps skills to healers moving forward. New players shouldn't feel this immense pressure to do damage on healing jobs because we forced them to have a bunch of damage skills. they should get their exhilaration from improving how well they heal then consider if they have the time to dps

See the issue is I do understand his thoughts here, and I do very much feel for him that in the healer role they are essentially in the toughest spot as it's the easiest role to see when someone is screwing up, and we are a pretty anti-toxic community here. They want to make sure new healers can feel better as they get better at the job and become more comfortable DPS'ing.

The problem is though, is that this statement boils down to this: The Dev team admits and acknowledges that the healing role has no way of giving veteran players that exhilarating feel of mastering their job. It's flat out telling you, if you are good and you want to really test yourself, healing isn't for you. There really is no other way to take this statement even if you account for translation and language barrier. In the eyes of the Dev's healers as a role is the entry role into XIV. If it its currently not challenging enough for you, you should move to a different role.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

See the issue is I do understand his thoughts here, and I do very much feel for him that in the healer role they are essentially in the toughest spot as it's the easiest role to see when someone is screwing up, and we are a pretty anti-toxic community here. They want to make sure new healers can feel better as they get better at the job and become more comfortable DPS'ing.

The problem is though, is that this statement boils down to this: The Dev team admits and acknowledges that the healing role has no way of giving veteran players that exhilarating feel of mastering their job. It's flat out telling you, if you are good and you want to really test yourself, healing isn't for you. There really is no other way to take this statement even if you account for translation and language barrier. In the eyes of the Dev's healers as a role is the entry role into XIV. If it its currently not challenging enough for you, you should move to a different role.

And they gave you your high skill cap job they gave you sage. Stop trying to ruin sch/whm for the rest of us.

[GrimGale]

That's bait.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

That's bait.

It’s really not I’m deadass serious. Take it for what it’s worth, you got your high skill cap let us others enjoy glare/broil.

[Semirhage]

>Sage looks high skill cap
>Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis Dosis
Mathladymeme.gif