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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    So, yoshida confirmed in a question from mr happy that healers are supposed to be new to healing and we ought to feel satisfied that we are skillfull enough to be able to do damage in the first place. If we don't like it, go play sage

    Mrhappy: Has the team noticed or taken any feedback on improving interactivity with healers, whether that be more interesting dps skills or increasing healing requirements

    Yoshida: We understand why high skill players desire more technical aspects to dpsing when playing healer. They are able to put damage skills very often between the healing that is required. But we won't make any dramatic addition of dps skills to healers moving forward. New players shouldn't feel this immense pressure to do damage on healing jobs because we forced them to have a bunch of damage skills. they should get their exhilaration from improving how well they heal then consider if they have the time to dps

    Mrhappy: he then added a reminder that sage is coming out...if a player wants a healer with a more dps focus they might enjoy sage a bit more.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkyq_yUMjI&t=365s

    and here's the skill lists. Consider these about 85% complete since potencies might go up and down a bit.

    Whm getting a lily from holy? pfft Astro cards? nadda. Sch anything? nope.

    https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...M_xmas2092.png
    https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...T_xmas2092.png
    https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...H_xmas2092.png
    https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...E_xmas2092.png

    edit: look forward to next week ish sometime and I'll update the summary of healer issues. I got an exam on either the monday or wednesday
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    Last edited by Recon1o6; 10-14-2021 at 04:29 AM.

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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    consider if they have the time to dps
    consider if

    consider if

    My. Sides. If ever there were a producer more out of touch with his vet healer community...
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Yoshida: New players shouldn't feel this immense pressure to do damage on healing jobs because we forced them to have a bunch of damage skills.
    Hearing that from the people who made healing so easy that dpsing on healers is basically required now...it would be hilarious if it weren't so incredibly out of touch.
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    Rika Lockhart
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Mrhappy: Has the team noticed or taken any feedback on improving interactivity with healers, whether that be more interesting dps skills or increasing healing requirements

    Yoshida: We understand why high skill players desire more technical aspects to dpsing when playing healer. They are able to put damage skills very often between the healing that is required. But we won't make any dramatic addition of dps skills to healers moving forward. New players shouldn't feel this immense pressure to do damage on healing jobs because we forced them to have a bunch of damage skills. they should get their exhilaration from improving how well they heal then consider if they have the time to dps
    See the issue is I do understand his thoughts here, and I do very much feel for him that in the healer role they are essentially in the toughest spot as it's the easiest role to see when someone is screwing up, and we are a pretty anti-toxic community here. They want to make sure new healers can feel better as they get better at the job and become more comfortable DPS'ing.

    The problem is though, is that this statement boils down to this: The Dev team admits and acknowledges that the healing role has no way of giving veteran players that exhilarating feel of mastering their job. It's flat out telling you, if you are good and you want to really test yourself, healing isn't for you. There really is no other way to take this statement even if you account for translation and language barrier. In the eyes of the Dev's healers as a role is the entry role into XIV. If it its currently not challenging enough for you, you should move to a different role.
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    AFuzzyMu11in's Avatar
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    Tiramisa Damsela
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rika007 View Post
    See the issue is I do understand his thoughts here, and I do very much feel for him that in the healer role they are essentially in the toughest spot as it's the easiest role to see when someone is screwing up, and we are a pretty anti-toxic community here. They want to make sure new healers can feel better as they get better at the job and become more comfortable DPS'ing.

    The problem is though, is that this statement boils down to this: The Dev team admits and acknowledges that the healing role has no way of giving veteran players that exhilarating feel of mastering their job. It's flat out telling you, if you are good and you want to really test yourself, healing isn't for you. There really is no other way to take this statement even if you account for translation and language barrier. In the eyes of the Dev's healers as a role is the entry role into XIV. If it its currently not challenging enough for you, you should move to a different role.
    And they gave you your high skill cap job they gave you sage. Stop trying to ruin sch/whm for the rest of us.
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