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    FoxCh40s's Avatar
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    Source Eldion
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Boizinho View Post
    I'm curious to know what you even mean by this and what the rationale is. On a personal level you could argue it's the clunkiest healer or that it's a shadow of its former self, but in terms of actual performance I'm not seeing a lot of competition in the healers. There's a pretty clearly defined winner and loser imo, and Scholar's in the middle. Without harping on about AST being the best healer, Indomitability, Excogitation, Sacred Soil, and Whispering Dawn are better than anything in WHM's kit and as limited as Ruin II might be, at least it exists. SCH is ahead of WHM in rDPS as well. Better mobility, better damage, better oGCDs, and better tools to weave them.

    SCH has its problems, but I wouldn't trade it for the Glarebot with cement shoes.
    *sigh* how many times do I have to say it's not about the NUMBERS, it's about the gameplay?

    Scholars gameplay loop right now is absolutely AWFUL, coming from a Scholar main since 2.3 (7-8 years ago). It is NOTHING like it used to be gameplay wise; no shadowflare, no using fairy actions in between casts, no micromanagement of fairy embraces, no Miasma 2, no Eye for an Eye spread, no original virus, no Malady debuff, no slow debuff.

    NOTHING.
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    Cora Eudestand
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxCh40s View Post
    *sigh* how many times do I have to say it's not about the NUMBERS, it's about the gameplay?

    Scholars gameplay loop right now is absolutely AWFUL, coming from a Scholar main since 2.3 (7-8 years ago). It is NOTHING like it used to be gameplay wise; no shadowflare, no using fairy actions in between casts, no micromanagement of fairy embraces, no Miasma 2, no Eye for an Eye spread, no original virus, no Malady debuff, no slow debuff.

    NOTHING.
    You said SCH can't be nerfed any more than it already is and it's objectively the worst healer. What you actually meant was that SCH is the job you have the strongest emotional reaction to. Those aren't anywhere near the same thing.

    Did SCH get gutted harder than any other job in ShB? Yes. But even if you took SCH's current kit and removed all of the Faerie abilities, put all Aetherflow abilities on the GCD, and deleted Ruin II and Energy Drain, it would still have more going on than WHM's kit. The fact that SCH and AST got their kneecaps sawn off and still landed above WHM anyway just goes to show how huge the gap was to begin with. It was absolutely wrong for them to try to drag everyone to WHM's level rather than giving WHM a kit that's more complex than a level 30 Dragoon. But even after the mass gutting of the other two healers, they're like level 60 Dragoons at least.

    It's just weird to suggest that SCH is in the worst shape out of the healers when you could remove half of its remaining kit and still give WHM a run for its money. It sort of just comes across as a selfish exclamation. Scholar is the worst one because I play Scholar, so Scholar being bad is worse than other healers being bad, because I don't play the other ones. Or maybe it's just a foregone conclusion at this point that WHM is completely non-competitive with other healers so they're not even part of the equation.
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