Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
No. Because I still think you could nerf Scholar harder given how little SE challenges healers as-is. It also wasn't that deep back then either. The majority of your gameplay that's different from now was in-between your Broil spam you'd occasionally mash an Embrace macro or target a party member manually for it between casts if the AI wasn't going to handle it (fun fact, The fairy was generally decent at this, so you'd really only do this for a tank when literally nothing was going in), or one of three pet actions, the majority of which were close to useless on BOTH pets. And the Embrace portion you can simulate with /place now with exactly the same results, just under different conditions.

Sure, sometimes you might have some Deploy shenanigans that were worthwhile, which I agree was satisfying to use with the old fairy, but most of the 'interesting' situations with that involved LB cheese or pet abuse during the same raidwide spam we complain about having too many actions for now, the former of which wouldn't be possible even if SCH hadn't been nerfed. Shields already need a second look to ensure their shelf life extends past the first month.

And as for the rest of Scholar's best traits, most of it wasn't even in Heavensward! Quickened Aetherflow and Miasma II were Stormblood exclusive interactions. Booksmacking and Ruin II spam wasn't a staple like it was in ARR either, where I'd say SCH was at it's best because it actually kind of sucked at something (and didn't have to compete with another healer or force its co-healer to fight over a slot). Cleric Stance wasn't an amazing button either. Most of Scholar's best abuses of it died with ARR Lustrate, which, yes, meant you'd swap out and back into it fairly consistently if you needed to use Aetherflow heals, but I don't think that added engaging.
Don't cite the magicks to me, I was there when it was written.

How could nerf Scholar even harder? It's objectively the worst healer right now, just sounds like you're one of the people who would Rage at Scholar no matter what state it was in. Scholars wanted everyone brought up to their level, not everyone brought down to White Mage.

Can we not argue old semantics that no longer matter, this is a tired old, VERY DONE, arguement.