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  1. 08-04-2021 06:58 PM #1
    Reiryuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    They made bare minimum effort with the entire role after years of feedback and just look at Fluid Aura if you want proof.
    I mean, just look at the history of WHM spells being taken away and given back, slightly tweaked or combined together, as "new spells" expanisons later for that.
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    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
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  2. 08-04-2021 08:50 PM #2
    Mimilu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    I mean, just look at the history of WHM spells being taken away and given back, slightly tweaked or combined together, as "new spells" expanisons later for that.
    Just to list them off:

    Aero III: Removed in 5.0
    Cleric Stance: Had its effect changed and turned into a Role Action in 4.0 then removed in 5.0
    Divine Seal: Renamed Largesse and turned into a Role Action in 4.0, then removed in 5.0
    Esuna: Turned into a Role Action in 4.0 (SCH lost Leeches and AST lost Exalted Detriment)
    Protect: Turned into a Role Action in 4.0 then removed in 5.0
    Repose: Turned into a Role Action in 4.0
    Shroud of Saints: Renamed Lucid Dreaming and turned into a Role Action in 4.0 (AST lost Luminiferious Aether)
    Stoneskin: Turned into Divine Benison in 4.0
    Stoneskin II: Removed in 4.0
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  3. 08-05-2021 03:19 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Just to list them off:

    Aero III: Removed in 5.0
    Cleric Stance: Had its effect changed and turned into a Role Action in 4.0 then removed in 5.0
    Divine Seal: Renamed Largesse and turned into a Role Action in 4.0, then removed in 5.0
    Esuna: Turned into a Role Action in 4.0 (SCH lost Leeches and AST lost Exalted Detriment)
    Protect: Turned into a Role Action in 4.0 then removed in 5.0
    Repose: Turned into a Role Action in 4.0
    Shroud of Saints: Renamed Lucid Dreaming and turned into a Role Action in 4.0 (AST lost Luminiferious Aether)
    Stoneskin: Turned into Divine Benison in 4.0
    Stoneskin II: Removed in 4.0
    Missed one.

    And then Largesse merged with Protect and became Temperance
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  4. 08-05-2021 06:01 AM #4
    Mimilu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Missed one.

    And then Largesse merged with Protect and became Temperance
    I had thought about mentioning Temperance but decided not to because Protect lasts longer (30 minutes) and couldn't remember how much damage it actually mitigated (the tool tips never said).
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  5. 08-05-2021 06:22 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    I had thought about mentioning Temperance but decided not to because Protect lasts longer (30 minutes) and couldn't remember how much damage it actually mitigated (the tool tips never said).
    Protect averaged about 2% reduction on non-tanks and ~4% on tanks.
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