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    Player Anhra's Avatar
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rymi64 View Post
    how is pld magic marauder when they play nothing alike? Everyone know's DRK and WAR play similar but saying PLD plays like marauder is wrong flat out. And what do you mean by removed bard songs?
    I can answer your question on that. Let's check on the similarities tanks have and then you might notice something when you look at the warrior skillset.

    1: every tank job has its own version of inner release.
    2: every tank has a "i can't die now button"
    3: every tank has the exact same AoE combo except for that one cone attack from Warrior which matters little.
    4: every tank has currenty on almost every content (except for endgame savage content) so much defense that some enemies do literally 0 damage when you pop one defense up buff, including bosses inside dungeons.
    5: every tank has enough self presevation capabilities, that it makes healing from healers almost completely unnecessary, as SCH for example, i only need to reapply whispering dawn and occasionally use aether pact which is more than enough to keep any decent tank alive. Hell, my FC is even doing the daily roulette on 50/60/70 and leveling without any healers, just for the heck of it.
    6: every tank has some wide range support utility which should normally be a healer thing.

    Tl;dr: tanks are just as boring to play as healers are because in both roles, the jobs are too similar from one another.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anhra View Post
    I can answer your question on that. Let's check on the similarities tanks have and then you might notice something when you look at the warrior skillset.

    1: every tank job has its own version of inner release.
    Tl;dr: tanks are just as boring to play as healers are because in both roles, the jobs are too similar from one another.
    It's less of an "Inner Release" version and more of a build up phase and a burst phase. Every role (except healers) has it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    It's less of an "Inner Release" version and more of a build up phase and a burst phase. Every role (except healers) has it.
    I think calling it an "Inner Release" is aptly named in this case. It always boils down to "spam this button 5 times", granted PLD now presses a different button at the end of it but the original design of Requiescat was exactly that. Sure, you could press something else, just like you could on warrior but that would simply mean you're doing it wrong on purpose.

    You're also not building up to anything, that's what GNB does, you're simply popping the cooldown and spam away. PLD only slightly differs in that it technically still has a cost attached to it but this cost is irrelevant due to it's rotation.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 01-17-2021 at 10:39 PM.