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    bundythenoob's Avatar
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    Allie Millfleurx
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelius2625 View Post
    Honestly a lot of this is just whining though. Astro and scholar feel really great to play in savage, and if I liked the idea behind WHM's optimization being about movement and lily use, I'd probably like that healer too...

    I hated old astro cards, I thought getting useless cards was completely miserable, and even the whole, "Use what you have for what you currently need" idea was just...not fun. The new cards are great, because they are always a welcome sight to see. A personal trick attack for your buff window is amazing, and even beyond that, 8 percent damage for 15s is nothing to sneeze at.

    SCH has amazing tools that can be used as well, Fey Union, Seraph, Blessing, Whispering dawn, so many things that can be utilized where you need to plan out your aetherflow.
    yes even though the jobs feel "amazing" to play at lv 80. SCH falls very far behind its counterparts during any form of lvl sync content because of missing tools and gimped fairy. in fact, it almost feels like the devs took all of the tanks and healers, balanced them at lv 80, but forgot that certain tools shine much brighter at lower levels.

    take embrace for example. i'm sure its potency was lowered to make up for seraph's healing and the soil regen at lv 80 to match the output of WHM and AST, but what if you take those tools away? SCH from lv 30-62 (before excog) struggles to heal what its fellow healers can do easily just due to lower healing potencies and the lack of damage to make up for that. that's not even including the fact that AST can draw cards outside of combat to prep itself, but SCH cant use aetherflow to prep its most necessary tools. on top of that, AST received very nice changes to its mana costs as of 5.3, and WHM has been in a decent spot on release with Holy keeping its stun, thin air, and assize. SCH meanwhile had all of its important DPS tools gutted, its older healing tools were not buffed to compensate for that gutting, and its fairy still cant cleanly weave its abilities like it used to, meaning that sometimes when you need the clutch boost to healing magic, it might get interrupted if fairy decides to embrace someone in between your orders.

    Sure healing might be easier than ever before, and sure the classes might be balanced at lv 80, but if theyre unbalanced at lv 70, 60, and 50, then whats the point in leveling them up? or using them to run synced content with friends? whats the point in running a SCH in 90% of the content in the game if its only viable from lv 70-80?
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by bundythenoob View Post
    yes even though the jobs feel "amazing" to play at lv 80. SCH falls very far behind its counterparts during any form of lvl sync content because of missing tools and gimped fairy. in fact, it almost feels like the devs took all of the tanks and healers, balanced them at lv 80, but forgot that certain tools shine much brighter at lower levels.
    They did the same to DPS. Lots of jobs feel terrible in synced content which is why there are more than a few of us who advocate for keeping our whole kits even while synced (damage scales based on synced Weapon Damage).
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]