Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
Three problems with this:

1) That's subjective, not objective. To many people, the experience gets objectively better as everyone gets better. In old style games, the reward for being a better healer was being a less stressed healer. That's still true today.

2) Not everyone who disagrees with your position is a new/less experienced player.

3) Even if we ignore both of the above - that's no reason to run people off by hitting them with a wall of salt when they come to the forums. Often you guys suggest that no one thinks like I do, as no one is here regularly posting on the forums from the position I am other than me. But every time someone does, they're met with a wall of bitter vet salt that's pretty grating to most people (it is to me, but despite what I'm called by the regular jaded vets, I have thicker skin and so stick around anyway). To most people, that's REALLY toxic and alienating, so they just leave. Having a toxic forum environment not only gives you a slanted view of what the playerbase actually wants, it's just a bad environment to cultivate in general, and creates a self-fulfilling "fact" of "No one disagrees with the echo chamber, because they aren't here in the echo chamber disagreeing", when said echo chamber is actively repelling dissenting voices from stepping into (or staying in) it.
1) One this is a none-argument saying its subjective, Once youve done higher end content you start to get bored with core content faster as it continuously fails to engage. It gets better after what level 15 but when u take ur first steps outside of core things never get better unless you do more hardcore content, healers suffering the worst of this fallacy of engagement. and two a less stressed healer is the worst playstyle basically doing 1-1-1-1 until GG. This is a fact unless some madman likes having the worst kit in the game and not doing the role they chose. three as horridly gatekeepery as it sounds coming from me new players must be seasoned in order to have a solid opinion on the true nature of the game to this extent. If everyones pitch was valid you'd have lv 50 SAm asking for a rework because their job is boring. Just doing the bare minimum of MSQ also doesnt warrant much insight to rebuttal, if anything they should agree more at least savage players have that sense of fun briefly. four, this is a MMO not a old style rpg where you can solo things without healing

2)This isnt really a argument but id love to see statistics on this one, whos to say really?

3)irrelevant, back to topic

change is required either by tangible kit or the backdrop of the instances