A summary of healer issues

[ForsakenRoe]

Aight we all know what we gotta do

Everyone's gotta ask the same main point in their question (what are the plans on making healers more fun), but reword it slightly so it's not a copypaste response

Then likespam every healer related question so at least one gets picked up

edit: oh they ask you to keep it on topic about the 'next 10 years' or congratulating them for the 10 years so far and your experiences in those previous 10 years

so word the question as like, 'healer playerbase has been dropping over time, how do you plan to keep healers interesting in the next 10 years, because this current trend isn't working' i guess

[Renathras]

Iunno, I posted two questions. I'm sure my post won't get any likes, either. The only posts that get likes and support are within the first 2-3 pages, no matter the content. I'm sure the questions that will get tons of likes and thus actualy be asked will be stuff like "When will you be increasing the size of the Glamour Chest?" and "Will we be getting new housing wards?"

EDIT: Not that any of you would promote it, but here's mine:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6201733

EDIT 2: Made a second post trying to make it shorter - no edit button is murder: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6201781

Though...yeah, first page is about BLU, Housing, and graphic update character creator (really?)

/sigh

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Okay, but this one made me laugh: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6201045

[IDontPetLalas]

Iunno, I posted two questions. I'm sure my post won't get any likes, either. The only posts that get likes and support are within the first 2-3 pages, no matter the content. I'm sure the questions that will get tons of likes and thus actualy be asked will be stuff like "When will you be increasing the size of the Glamour Chest?" and "Will we be getting new housing wards?"

EDIT: Not that any of you would promote it, but here's mine:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6201733

You happened to make the choice of of posing unrelated 2 topics in the same question- perhaps inadvertently, or perhaps not. We'll see how that works out - as for myself, if I don't agree with both then I wouldn't promote your question.

[Renathras]

You happened to make the choice of of posing unrelated 2 topics in the same question- perhaps inadvertently, or perhaps not. We'll see how that works out - as for myself, if I don't agree with both then I wouldn't promote your question.

Well, I also posted just the one later.

But yeah, bold move, Cotton, we'll see how it works out. I fully suspect they'll only look at the first 2-3 pages of questions, which are all about Housing, Glam, and BLU. Because of course they are.

You don't have to agree with them - or promote them - though I feel if you had the choice of my first question or nothing, you'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face to reject it. /shrug But I'm not the boss of you, so do what you feel best. I only asked the questions that I personally think are the most important to the health of the game to me right now - Healers being identical as a bad thing and the 2 min meta as a bad thing - and wondering if the Dev team has had thoughts of changing one or both of those things. /shrug

[IDontPetLalas]

Well, I also posted just the one later.

But yeah, bold move, Cotton, we'll see how it works out. I fully suspect they'll only look at the first 2-3 pages of questions, which are all about Housing, Glam, and BLU. Because of course they are.

You don't have to agree with them - or promote them - though I feel if you had the choice of my first question or nothing, you'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face to reject it. /shrug But I'm not the boss of you, so do what you feel best. I only asked the questions that I personally think are the most important to the health of the game to me right now - Healers being identical as a bad thing and the 2 min meta as a bad thing - and wondering if the Dev team has had thoughts of changing one or both of those things. /shrug

That's rather an odd position given that generally only a limited number of questions are selected, I generally promote questions that are well formulated rather than those that are either at risk of being poorly translated as well as those that could possibly/probably lead to undesirable outcomes. However, as you say, to each their own.

[Renathras]

I doubt they only let a person Like a post once and don't count otherwise. Were I you (I'm not, of course), I'd Like all the Healer related questions just so they are more likely to at least acknowledge it, since there's no limitation on how many you may promote. The only reason not to is if you'd rather them not even consider the option, to the point you'd rather risk them not considering Healers at all. An odd position to me, but we're different people. Moreover, I was just saying that was my post and that I didn't suspect it would have much support. It wasn't a secret reverse psychology attempt to get any.

[IDontPetLalas]

Well, I fully support anyone adding questions, my sole concern - and this goes to everyone adding a question, was one that you have already pointed out- that questions can easily get lost after several pages. I don't you if you recall one of our previous live letters, we managed to get one healer post with well over a hundred likes and it was impossible to be ignored, even though it was multiple pages down. It's harder to get that when questions don't focus on a single topic.

[Deceptus]

Well, I fully support anyone adding questions, my sole concern - and this goes to everyone adding a question, was one that you have already pointed out- that questions can easily get lost after several pages. I don't you if you recall one of our previous live letters, we managed to get one healer post with well over a hundred likes and it was impossible to be ignored, even though it was multiple pages down. It's harder to get that when questions don't focus on a single topic.

Healers issues can't really be boiled down to a simple single topic though, they have multitudes of issues.


Us: There's not enough outgoing damage to justify the amount of heals we do
Yoshi: Go play ultimate.

Us: Our downtime is a single filler spell, we cast it as much as a tank has auto attacks
Yoshi: We don't want healers to feel stressed

Us: It's not fun.
Yoshi: Some people say it is

etc. . . etc. . . etc.


My Question, tried to make it as simple and straightforward as possible:

Healers are consistently in short supply and high demand in almost all content, in higher end content they the the first role dropped in favor of an extra DPS. Many players feel that this is due to their poor job design and job balance.

Moving forward, will you commit to hiring a developer, or having a developer dedicated specifically to work on healers and healers alone to make them better designed.

[IDontPetLalas]

Healers issues can't really be boiled down to a simple single topic though, they have multitudes of issues.


Us: There's not enough outgoing damage to justify the amount of heals we do
Yoshi: Go play ultimate.

Us: Our downtime is a single filler spell, we cast it as much as a tank has auto attacks
Yoshi: We don't want healers to feel stressed

Us: It's not fun.
Yoshi: Some people say it is

etc. . . etc. . . etc.


My Question, tried to make it as simple and straightforward as possible:

I never said that healer issues can be boiled down to a single topic. I said that "a post" can be constrained to one, and the more complex your question was, the more likely it would be either mis-translated and/or not supported (or , if is too lengthy even misunderstood , now that I reflect more)

I said that given the large number of questions it is far more likely that a question regarding healer issues is not going to be ignored and is going to be asked if it is highly promoted which is a very different thing. Basically - as ForsakenRoe has explained.

[ForsakenRoe]

Yeh, so what we have to do is like all the healer questions, so that rather than there being just Recon's 'un-ignoreable' amount of likes as we had previously, we have multiple healer questions with 'un-ignoreable' numbers of likes, and at least one gets picked up, if not more. There were 2 questions in that Live Q+A about how there were loads of PFs on JP that were full, except for healers, and how it's a problem, so it's possible that we might get more than one healer question raised if they're all really high on like-count, which would hopefully show the devs that 'actually this is a very serious issue please dedicate appropriate time to resolving it instead of these fluff questions'

The only other thing I've gone through and liked on that thread is 'make a more futureproofed glam system' because damn we need that too. But some of the questions are like, 'what the heck are you thinking' tier, especially the lore related ones, why tf are people asking Yoshida about lore instead of saving it for Koji-Fox or Oda at a Fanfest