A summary of healer issues

[Recon1o6]

Yeah, it could be there for the loss of the old Cards. Could chuck WHM on the EW door a second time as well since the devs apparently forgot the Job existed at the start of the expac, BRD on the ShB door for when it's support kit got gutted going into ShB, MCH could probably go on every door, SMN for the rework that made the Job braindead. Wouldn't be able to see the damn doors if I chucked everything that's happened over the years on there so I opted to keep things simple.

Heres one I made just for Ast that I posted in the Ast adjustments thread

[Sunhwapark]

It's been so long since we lost lumineferous aether & the other skills, I forgot what exalted detriment even looked like lol

[SpiralMask]

Heres one I made just for Ast that I posted in the Ast adjustments thread

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[rewd]

Pardon me but wheres the door for Summoner?

It's directly in the grave with Machinist

[Lyth]

Thanks. Though I admit I'm a bit unsure whether to put it in a new thread or not. On one hand new upvotes, on the other there's a not insignificant chance it won't get as much traction due to the massive volume of healer problems atm and given how many healers quit in EW

I think that your reworked post absolutely deserves a new thread. The real question is when to do it.

Have a think about what changes can be practically resolved in the short term (i.e. in a major patch) vs. what can be resolved in the longer term (i.e. next expansion). Perhaps put your ideas out at /r/ffxivdiscussion and ask for feedback before you formulate the final version - I don't think I've seen a solid discussion on healer direction in the past few months at least. Ideally, a thread like this needs to build momentum during the lead in to a Q+A Live Letter, because then the issue becomes very topical. If you're considering taking a break, then perhaps liase with one of the regulars here to see if they can spearhead it. But I do think it's a worthwhile cause.

[Recon1o6]

I think that your reworked post absolutely deserves a new thread. The real question is when to do it.

Have a think about what changes can be practically resolved in the short term (i.e. in a major patch) vs. what can be resolved in the longer term (i.e. next expansion). Perhaps put your ideas out at /r/ffxivdiscussion and ask for feedback before you formulate the final version - I don't think I've seen a solid discussion on healer direction in the past few months at least. Ideally, a thread like this needs to build momentum during the lead in to a Q+A Live Letter, because then the issue becomes very topical. If you're considering taking a break, then perhaps liase with one of the regulars here to see if they can spearhead it. But I do think it's a worthwhile cause.

My sub and as far as im aware my allowance for using this forum ends in 2 days.

I might be cynical but I really don't see much point sticking it on reddit tbh since they downvote any criticism to oblivion. I posted my original question from the q&a there and it was downvoted to bits

Anyone else is welcome to do so however if they think they can get btter luck

[Nizzi]

My sub and as far as im aware my allowance for using this forum ends in 2 days.

I might be cynical but I really don't see much point sticking it on reddit tbh since they downvote any criticism to oblivion. I posted my original question from the q&a there and it was downvoted to bits

Anyone else is welcome to do so however if they think they can get btter luck

Your ability to use the forum lasts a bit longer than your sub, I was unsubbed and I could still use it for about 2 weeks IIRC last time

[Lyth]

As far as I know, it's based on your in-game log in times, not the sub itself. A flag is set after 14 days of not logging in, and there's a delay for a day or two for the system to realize that you've recently logged on when you come back from hiatus.

The main /r/ffxiv subreddit is not the best place for a long post, because it's favors short memes with witty comebacks and threads have a relatively short lifespan. You'd be more successful posting a single line question with a cute picture and leave a link to a thread in the comments if you wanted to go that route, because most people won't have the attention span for it. But while you'd get a lot of feedback, I'm not sure how illuminating the responses would be. The /r/ffxivdiscussion subreddit would be where your thesis would make more sense, because there's a slower overall pace to the discussions and they prefer more in-depth, thoughtful answers. That's why it exists in the first place.

I don't think it's really about getting support for your ideas at this point. I think most people would find a change in direction to be refreshing. But I'd really like to see a proposed plan come together from the community. What are the issues holding healers back? What can be done next major patch? What can be done next expansion? If I put you in charge, how would you fix this mess, in broad strokes?

[Colt47]

The problems they have right now are with the direction they took on simplifying jobs back in shadowbringers, and while they are polishing up what they worked on, the game kind of went into major combo spam territory and homogenization of the roles. Healers have way too many buttons dedicated to healing skills and not dps / utility skills. I don't need seven ways to OGCD heal a single target, and that's what put me off about healing and made me basically temp quit the role entirely.

[D6Damager]

Pardon me but wheres the door for Summoner?

All the Summoners are in the PvP hallway...first door on the right called Frontlines.