A summary of healer issues

[Absurdity]

I'm not the best healer, but in a green parse Diamond EX I looked at my GCD usage. 95%+ of my GCD's were DPS as SCH with only 6 GCD heals used with over 100 DPS casts (one healing GCD at start to deploy Adlo) and had only 14% over heal. That tells me from the interviews I guess I'm supposed to switch to Sage even though I'm nowhere near top tier.

Basically yes. From how Yoshi-P explained their reasoning for the EW healer changes, or lack thereof, ANY healer that isn't a GCD heal spamming curebot, who has 90% of their attention fixated on watching Netflix, should just play Sage...or as they would probably call them: "the elite healers"

When I looked the paladin toolkit (the only tank i've looked tbh) I was really surprised to see such amount of healing. Seems over-the-top to me, unless they really push the damage (which... historically we know that it doesn't usually happen). I can maybe see more 8man content being made with just one healer.

It's not just PLD. Warrior gets even more selfheal than it currently has (and more consistent healing through Nascent Flash/Bloodwhetting in bossfights), another 1000 potency on Equilibrium in the form of a regen, a 400 potency heal on Shake it Off, 20% mitigation on their Nascent Flash replacement.

GnB gets 2 charges of their HoT (Aurora) and ~28% mitigation for 4 seconds every 25 seconds with an added 800-850 potency heal should they drop below 50% (Heart of Corundum).

DrK is pretty much the only tank that got the absolute shortest end of the stick, all other tanks either got a ridiculous amount of extra mitigation, selfheal or both.

[Mortex]

Out of curiosity, how is everyone feeling about some of the extra healing the tanks are getting? I'm not sure how I feel about it, personally. My initial reaction though is... why need healers?

I mean only 2 tanks get really strong heal. Gnb heal form the vids is around 400 - 500 potency around so it’s ok. But oh boy war and pld are insane. Pld gets a 50 gauge sentinel for 4 seconds with a massive hot as the cherry on top and also 400 potency heal on spirit and circle. And when war has his raw intuition upgrade and the hot on equilibrium he can get every minute 6400 heal potency and that’s without storms path and thrill. Like every dungeon run is gonna be always different. 2 of the 4 tanks do need way more heal and then other two just heal themselves all the time.I don’t think it’s a good change. There is so much healing abilities in general then. Reaper has one, Summoner has one and a better hot exgoc then sch and dancer also with the new improvisation. Have a war main tank and a pld off tank and these 3 jobs in the group and a sage on the main tank and you actually don’t even need to heal anything on gcd at all anymore.

[KDSilver]

Out of curiosity, how is everyone feeling about some of the extra healing the tanks are getting? I'm not sure how I feel about it, personally. My initial reaction though is... why need healers?

If nothing justify so much healing from others jobs than healers, I feel bad for it.
It it's meant to compensate for higher damage taken, it could be okay tier I guess ? (that still something we won't be healing which is the contrary of what we've been asking).
But I won't hope too much from that theory.

[Rubiss]

I’m of the camp healer numbers are prob higher than they ever have been. And will only grow with EW. Complexity players are the minority imo. You guys really do not know how satisfying broil feels to spam i know it sounds like bait but it’s th me truth. You guys gonna tell me you don’t like smashing holy on trash and just feeling the lights and satisfaction of bars dropping etc.

This is 100% bait. If it's not then... lord...

Just spam Broil. No one is stopping you. You can even go play Ninja and spam Spinning Slash if you want that nice dopamine.

But give players who care about their job something to do.

[NobleWinter]

I’m of the camp healer numbers are prob higher than they ever have been. And will only grow with EW. Complexity players are the minority imo. You guys really do not know how satisfying broil feels to spam i know it sounds like bait but it’s th me truth. You guys gonna tell me you don’t like smashing holy on trash and just feeling the lights and satisfaction of bars dropping etc.

Are you one of the class designers catphishing us? All your posts seem like a desperate attempt to justify really bad healer design. The logic is downright sad. You like pressing one button so that's all healers should have lmao?! Just buy a pen and click it while you watch a movie. Let the rest of us have engaging gameplay please. Healing should not have the depth of a light switch.

[Calysto]

Some posts I made recently agregated into an idea (that's probably already been posted at some point in some form, but whatever)

Job Trait : quickened <whatever> : reduce the cast time of some 90s/120s ability.

That effect is almost unnoticeable by other players : no pressure.

And now my genius idea to proc it that so everyone is happy : Just base it on MP spent.
-Spam glare : bonus
-Spam cure I (because you hate dpsing) : bonus
-Watch Netflix : who notice if you don't shave a bit of your CD ?

No skill floor change ; reward always casting (even if not optimally, but whatever)
It doesn't fix the glarespam issue, but It just feels a little bit rewarding for every cast you make.

[Sunhwapark]

My main issue is that they keep scapegoating casual players to justify speedrunning how fast they can make the average skill ceiling collapse into the floor.

[NobleWinter]

Maybe we just really don't understand what it means to be a casual player? Our personal experience in a game with millions of players has to be incredibly biased. I wonder what the "casual" really means.

[AngeliouxRein]

This has been my thoughts lately… like do I just not understand the meaning of a casual player the same as others or what? To me, as someone who considers themself as a casual, casual just meant you did casual content ( story, house, side mini games, relic, craft, gather, etc). No where in my thoughts did I think it meant for things to get so simplified to where I mainly press one button. Even when thinking about all the other MMORPG I played in the past that had about 6-10 skills we managed, their gameplay was never this level of simple. The encounter we had in those games made up for it as we advance through levels, gear and what not. Healers never felt like I was spamming only one button for half a fight. We were always using almost out entire kit no matter what…

So what am I missing here on what they are trying to achieve? None of the interviews have been helping me understand the goal… in one of them he even said he didn’t want healers to do constant healing..but only want to increase that a little so not stress people out… I’m really at a lost ..

[AikenDrum]

20 years ago in molten core i was definitely spamming one button playing, afair, mage and priest
not something i'd ever want to do again though