A summary of healer issues

[BarretOblivion]

-reintroduce random crits to encourage healing

Every Tank Main: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Look, if you want more damage from autos throughout the fight and mechanics where tanks are taking autos, fine.
However, the random crits never promoted more healing, they created frustrating wipes because the tank would just get RNG screwed and hit the ground because the crits coming in at bad times or healers being greedy (still die to auto-attacks to this day from healers not healing me as MT)
Most of the solutions and issues make sense to me, outside of arguing tanks should have fewer raid mits... ummm yeah, no that's part of our job. Tanks don't really have a intensive mitigation rotation... its basically less brain cells melee dps while making sure you hit X button at X time IF you are the MT most of the time. OTs do bugger all until its their turn, so removing raid mits from tanks is just... so inconsiderate.

[Supersnow845]

Every Tank Main: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Look, if you want more damage from autos throughout the fight and mechanics where tanks are taking autos, fine.
However, the random crits never promoted more healing, they created frustrating wipes because the tank would just get RNG screwed and hit the ground because the crits coming in at bad times or healers being greedy (still die to auto-attacks to this day from healers not healing me as MT)
Most of the solutions and issues make sense to me, outside of arguing tanks should have fewer raid mits... ummm yeah, no that's part of our job. Tanks don't really have a intensive mitigation rotation... its basically less brain cells melee dps while making sure you hit X button at X time IF you are the MT most of the time. OTs do bugger all until its their turn, so removing raid mits from tanks is just... so inconsiderate.

2 points on this
A) maybe they should fix the OT problem by actually engaging the OT in the fight, rather than having them play a sorta bad melee with too much health
B) raidwide mitigation on a tank should be actual mitigation, not WAR’s “my SIO is literally stronger than any single healer heal in the game”. Tanks having raidwide mitigation is fine, tanks having raidwide mitigation that’s not really mitigation but is instead a disguised overpowered AOE heal is a problem. This is why I have absolutely no problem with HOL or DM

[Azurarok]

Couldn't really find a better thread so asking here.

There's already posts in the JP forums asking to either make E. Dyskrasia and E. Dosis' dots overwrite eachother or make E. Dyskrasia dps neutral or a loss compared to Dosis with a decent number of upvotes, so I'm wondering how this side of the community sees it.

I'd personally be okay-ish with it being neutral since it'd function as a mobility tool on a 30s cd that way, but not anything beyond that. I'm especially against them overwriting.

[ZubaanJCP]

As a tank main who seconds healer... I'm grateful to healers for what they do.

Yeah there's problems with the safeness of FFXIV's designs. However, I'm a long time player of both major MMOs and I'll take the scriptedness of 14 over the chaos of WoW.

Does it make healing more boring and the threshold harder to get good... Yeah. I think most of the time it's just how the design is coupled with tanks getting better. If you take away the scripted nature of FFXIV, then you run the risk of getting RNG-screwed with busters and autos. I don't think the fix is crits on autos, but harder hitting autos and party-wide autos, and higher incoming damage from vulns. But I also think that means that the 30-sec mits that tanks have need to be a bit stronger... Not much, just a bit.

Just one thought. But I get it. I support harder content for healers to grow.

[Mimilu]

Couldn't really find a better thread so asking here.

There's already posts in the JP forums asking to either make E. Dyskrasia and E. Dosis' dots overwrite eachother or make E. Dyskrasia dps neutral or a loss compared to Dosis with a decent number of upvotes, so I'm wondering how this side of the community sees it.

I'd personally be okay-ish with it being neutral since it'd function as a mobility tool on a 30s cd that way, but not anything beyond that. I'm especially against them overwriting.

I mean, E. Dyskrasia is literally Miasma II, which is what quite a few vocal people wanted to see added back to SCH for something to break up the Broils and Biolysis casts.
Personally, I'll have to see how it handles but I think it's better then only getting the new DPS toys every 2-minutes, like Glare IV, Oracle, and Baneful Impaction.
The devs really need to improve healer's GCD gameplay in someway, whether that's bring focus back onto GCD healing and making that more then just cure-spamming or keeping healing primarily oGCD (like they've been doing) and making their GCD DPS interesting.
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[TheDustyOne]

Couldn't really find a better thread so asking here.

There's already posts in the JP forums asking to either make E. Dyskrasia and E. Dosis' dots overwrite eachother or make E. Dyskrasia dps neutral or a loss compared to Dosis with a decent number of upvotes, so I'm wondering how this side of the community sees it.

I'd personally be okay-ish with it being neutral since it'd function as a mobility tool on a 30s cd that way, but not anything beyond that. I'm especially against them overwriting.

They have 3 other healers if they don't like what SGE is doing. I find the way the JP forums wants healers to be is antithetical to how the game is designed anyway and SGE still isn't going far enough.

[plasmacutter]

Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now

I'd just like to point out that healers have at least gotten a hefty visual upgrade to their main damage nuke every expansion to this point.

They didn't even do that this time.

I happened to really like "Glare", but glare III was an eyesore that obliterated its own missile effects in its own bloom.

I wrote it off and said "i'll wait for 7.0, it's not like I will like every visual, right?"
Now 7.0 is dropping and after watching the same nuke go off every gcd for 3 years I get to watch it go off for another 3.

I know this seems petty, but it's the visual equivalent of eating archon loaf as your only meal for 6 years. (but even if you consider Endwalker's visuals to be "chocolate ice cream", eating nothing but that for 3 years will make you crave brussels sprouts)

[Ayalu]

They have 3 other healers if they don't like what SGE is doing. I find the way the JP forums wants healers to be is antithetical to how the game is designed anyway and SGE still isn't going far enough.

It would probably help if both sides would work together and not argue for opposing directions. What we have in common is dissatisfaction about how it is currently.

[Zaytex]

I'd just like to point out that healers have at least gotten a hefty visual upgrade to their main damage nuke every expansion to this point.

They didn't even do that this time.

I happened to really like "Glare", but glare III was an eyesore that obliterated its own missile effects in its own bloom.

I wrote it off and said "i'll wait for 7.0, it's not like I will like every visual, right?"
Now 7.0 is dropping and after watching the same nuke go off every gcd for 3 years I get to watch it go off for another 3.

I know this seems petty, but it's the visual equivalent of eating archon loaf as your only meal for 6 years. (but even if you consider Endwalker's visuals to be "chocolate ice cream", eating nothing but that for 3 years will make you crave brussels sprouts)

Can you be grateful please, you get to see glare IV 3 times every 120 seconds for a fresh animation to go with your hundreds of glare III spam, it's fine

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[rawker]

The amount of gaslighting truly is alarming.