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  1. #1611
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Tell it to her, she did it first.

    It can't be okay for others to do it to me but not the reverse. Peace treaties don't go one-way only.
    You say this, but Sebazy brought up dirty laundry on you, you then brought up dirty laundry on 3 unrelated people while saying nothing about Sebazy. That's completely uncalled for and makes you look petty. The 3 people you called out also have not made it a habit of bringing up old beef, so it's even more petty that you'd pick the 3 of us as an example.
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  2. #1612
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    Yeah I mean I know you don’t like me ren but why am I in your firing line in response to Sebazy
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  3. #1613
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    Meanwhile the silent majority of forum community could care less about who said what to whom first about peace treaties, dirty laundry or soliloquies regarding perceived slights.

    If on the other hand anyone wants to add something related to healer issues, maybe some new people might not get frightened off.
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  4. #1614
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  5. #1615
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    I said it once before - and you guys, at the time, said you'd be better about policing each other; something that hasn't happened - that armistice cannot be a one sided affair.

    Every time this happens, it's because someone does this kind of crap to me, no one else calls it out, you guys like and upvote their post, clearly supporting it. Then it escalates. Then you use it to further attack me and contribute to the "reputation" you collectively insist I have.

    When what SHOULD happen is you guys see it and say "Hey yeah, that's not fair to Ren. You should stop it." Because LITERALLY every time someone actually does that, it DOES stop. That's all it takes. But it almost never happens. And clearly, I can't do it. Because the person attacking me isn't going to listen to me, the person they're in the process of attacking. It HAS to be one of you. But the bystander effect is real, isn't it?

    Even better, if people would resist that initial urge to attack or dig at me in the first place when it's uncalled for - which, believe it or not, it often (even almost always) IS uncalled for.

    It's just so exhausting...

    But the solution would be so insanely simple, if you guys actually cared. But you collectively seem not to.
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  6. #1616
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Meanwhile the silent majority of forum community could care less about who said what to whom first about peace treaties, dirty laundry or soliloquies regarding perceived slights.

    If on the other hand anyone wants to add something related to healer issues, maybe some new people might not get frightened off.
    There's really not much to add, everything has been argued to death already. Unless there's another major shake-up to healers or unless a new person wants to give their perspective, there's really nothing to do but rehash old points. Guess we see if 6.5 job changes brings anything.
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    Last edited by Aravell; 09-26-2023 at 01:02 PM. Reason: Removed unrelated points

  7. #1617
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Tell it to her, she did it first.

    It can't be okay for others to do it to me but not the reverse. Peace treaties don't go one-way only.
    I haven't been following this thread lately. I just skim through whatever's recently every once in a while. How that applies to this thread lately has just be "let's see... drama drama drama... Okay, I'm not missing anything." and I move on.

    I have no interest in going back and trying to sleuth out who threw the first stone, because regardless of who started it, you're still dragging my name into things for some reason, and that ain't the high road, sir. And it really doesn't matter who started it anyway. This has seemingly dragged on for way too long, and you're responsible for that too. People will call out others when you're wronged, like some of what's happened over in general, but it's hard to have anything to say on the back and forth that's been happening here because neither party is clean. I'm just wondering why I have to be name dropped in all this.
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  8. #1618
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Meanwhile the silent majority of forum community could care less about who said what to whom first about peace treaties, dirty laundry or soliloquies regarding perceived slights.

    If on the other hand anyone wants to add something related to healer issues, maybe some new people might not get frightened off.
    I want to agree, but what is there left to add?
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  9. #1619
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    I wish they’d be a bit more forthcoming with information about healers going forward. If nothing else at least to put some of these arguments to rest. Even just like, ‘we’re looking into doing X’, or ‘we may look into Y’ or the like.

    There’s likely around 10-11 months before Dawntrail releases and the silence is already deafening…

    Will Astrologian keep its cards? Will Scholar get more DoTs? Will White Mage get..anything? We’ll never know because we’ll all be skeletons by the time they announce anything

    Edit: I know there’s the whole ‘people complaining before trying it’ thing they’re worried about but people are kinda gonna do that anyway. Isn’t it human nature for people to make snap judgements?
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    Last edited by Connor; 09-26-2023 at 12:03 PM.

  10. #1620
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    I had to add thanks for the laugh Connor , it may be true , but still "We’ll never know because we’ll all be skeletons by the time they announce anything" that was a good one
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