A summary of healer issues

[Semirhage]

The oft-quoted "people" have cleared PotD on AST. Well- so what? How many out of all the jobs have done it on AST, and of those people, how much longer did it take them on AST in comparison to the other jobs? I would be willing to bet that it's the least number in comparison to any other job, and it took the longest to clear. So it could make it interesting for someone from an achievement point of view (i.e. they want to complete it on all jobs) - but it could be really off-putting for many people who find it a miserable slog. Which is similar to other things that you might want to solo on an AST- are they possible? Yes- are they fun? - not necessarily, in comparison to other jobs.

T

As someone with the Necromancer title, the added difficulty from running Palace on AST isn't even the interesting kind. On the higher floors you're doing what other classes do: carefully selecting enemies, pulling one at a time, and kiting. You have excellent sustain being a healer with Essential Dignity and all that. The main problem with a job that has terrible output is running into the time limit. It's like, woohoo, it's "harder" because it takes for flippin' ever to kill enemies and you run out of time because...it takes so long to kill them. Clearing Palace solo with any job is difficult, AST just adds even more boredom on top of that.

I'd be more impressed by a BLM who made it past the Behemoth boss solo. That boss requires that you play your class as close to perfectly as you can in order to not die to the Ecliptic Meteor casts. That's impressive. Managing to sprint to the next enemy fast enough so you can sneeze it to death with Malefic I suppose is impressive too...at least impressive that you managed to stay alert for long enough to keep your momentum going.

[Renathras]

The oft-quoted "people" have cleared PotD on AST. Well- so what? How many out of all the jobs have done it on AST, and of those people, how much longer did it take them on AST in comparison to the other jobs? I would be willing to bet that it's the least number in comparison to any other job, and it took the longest to clear. So it could make it interesting for someone from an achievement point of view (i.e. they want to complete it on all jobs) - but it could be really off-putting for many people who find it a miserable slog. Which is similar to other things that you might want to solo on an AST- are they possible? Yes- are they fun? - not necessarily, in comparison to other jobs.

T

Oh, I didn't say it was easy.

I said it has been done, meaning it is possible. There are people who have cleared on every Job, and I think they tend to say AST and BLM are the two worst to clear it on. AST because the low damage means you run out of time if RNG is against you (though this can happen on any Job, Tanks also have this issue, they're just able to brute force through things and survive better), BLM because the lack of healing and glass cannon nature means you either do your rotation flawlessly or you just die on some fights, like Roe said.

[ForteNightshade]

"If you want more engaging content [as a healer], go play Ultimate" Yoshida said:

[Allegor]

"If you want more engaging content [as a healer], go play Ultimate" Yoshida said:

What's your point? I see a WAR and RDM there, aren't they healers? /think

[AnotherPerson]

"If you want more engaging content [as a healer], go play Ultimate" Yoshida said:

Wait, did they actually make it to the final phase without a healer? Does that mean the only thing that really stops a no-healer clear in Omega Protocol is just ... magic number because a lack of a healer LB3 and not because a healer's healing toolkit is needed? Oof.

[WaxSw]

Wait, did they actually make it to the final phase without a healer? Does that mean the only thing that really stops a no-healer clear in Omega Protocol is just ... magic number because a lack of a healer LB3 and not because a healer's healing toolkit is needed? Oof.

I've heard they just cleared not long ago but with lack of a better proof here's a screenshot of that group reaching a 1% wipe

Edit: further down in ty's post is the proof

[Absurdity]

Wait, did they actually make it to the final phase without a healer? Does that mean the only thing that really stops a no-healer clear in Omega Protocol is just ... magic number because a lack of a healer LB3 and not because a healer's healing toolkit is needed? Oof.

Yes, they made it to the last phase without healers. Sure looks like only magic number is preventing a no-healer clear.

[ty_taurus]

Yes, they made it to the last phase without healers. Sure looks like only magic number is preventing a no-healer clear.

Seems like you spoke seconds too soon if WaxSw is correct. Mind boggling. Go play Ultimate if you want to heal...

Actually here's the proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svhRFO34_F8

[ForteNightshade]

Seems like you spoke seconds too soon if WaxSw is correct. Mind boggling. Go play Ultimate if you want to heal...

Actually here's the proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svhRFO34_F8

Beat me to it!

To elaborate on this, Magic Numbers doesn't go through Cover. This allows them to keep the Summoner and Red Mage alive to chain raise. We don't have the full vod yet but supposedly the fifth DPS allows them to utterly annihilate DPS checks, making it theoretically possible to skip the tank busters at the end of P1, Monitors in P3 and a whole stack in p4. Which lets them abuse invulns, Cover and tank LB.

If we ever needed further proof Ultimate is more a mitigation check than a healing one, here you go.

[ForsakenRoe]

God I hope this comes up at fanfest because this is a pretty damning indictment of the design of the game as it stands

'Pure healer? Yeh sorry we don't need your pure healing or your regens, the WAR and PLD have it covered'
'Shield healer? Yeh sorry we don't need your shields or mitigations, the WAR and PLD have it covered'

Literally 'Cover'-d in the PLD's case, I suppose. Sorry, I have to make jokes about it because if I don't laugh at how ridiculous it all is, I'll probably fall to despair. And people defend this shoddy, dysfunctional design, I guess because they're the WAR who has 5 different ways to recover it's own HP so why would they care what the healers are complaining about now? Healers exist only to play second fiddle to the real heroes of the raid, after all